If this is the way you prefer to frame your agreement - I am fine with it :)
Thank you Cos On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 01:38PM, Andrew Bayer wrote: > I still don't think we need to change that wording, but I'd accept Ross's > suggestion of "Informal voice is OK, but keep it factual and welcoming". > > A. > > On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 12:13 PM, Konstantin Boudnik <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Ross replied to Bruno's email to board@ with his recommendation. So, it > > makes > > two of us who see the issue with using word 'professional'. > > > > My -1 still stands, until it is resolved. > > > > Cos > > > > On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 06:40PM, Andrew Bayer wrote: > > > Huh? I still don't see anything about the term unprofessional. > > > On Mar 16, 2015 6:31 PM, "Konstantin Boudnik" <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > I guess my search-foo is mightier http://s.apache.org/ue > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 04:18PM, Andrew Bayer wrote: > > > > > I don't see anything like that on that thread. > > > > > > > > > > A. > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 4:11 PM, Konstantin Boudnik <[email protected]> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 03:45PM, Andrew Bayer wrote: > > > > > > > I can't find that anywhere - link? Subject of the thread? > > > > > > > > > > > > "Reply to the board report comment" I believe > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > A. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 3:41 PM, Konstantin Boudnik < > > [email protected]> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 03:26PM, Andrew Bayer wrote: > > > > > > > > > What would be an acceptable alternative? "Undignified"? > > > > > > "Disreputable"? > > > > > > > > > "Classless"? I can't think of a word that fits better than > > > > > > > > > "unprofessional", and nitpicking over our volunteer status > > just > > > > feels > > > > > > > > silly. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You can direct your dissatisfaction to Ross G. who brough this > > > > point > > > > > > in the > > > > > > > > recent thread on the board@ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am just a messenger. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 3:18 PM, Konstantin Boudnik < > > > > [email protected]> > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I don't want to second-guess people who might be making any > > > > sort of > > > > > > > > > > judgement > > > > > > > > > > about Foundation status. Hence, my -1 stands unless we > > have a > > > > > > > > correction, > > > > > > > > > > I've > > > > > > > > > > requested. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 04:11PM, Sean Mackrory wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > If individuals conduct themselves in a business-like > > > > fashion, it > > > > > > > > doesn't > > > > > > > > > > > make something a business. I don't see how that makes the > > > > > > guidelines > > > > > > > > > > > confusing at all. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 3:54 PM, Konstantin Boudnik < > > > > > > [email protected]> > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 03:49PM, Sean Mackrory wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/professional > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1 c (1) : characterized by or conforming to the > > > > technical or > > > > > > > > ethical > > > > > > > > > > > > > standards of a profession (2) : exhibiting a > > courteous, > > > > > > > > > > > > > conscientious, and generally businesslike manner in > > the > > > > > > workplace > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for your help: businesslike is keywork here. > > Please > > > > see > > > > > > my > > > > > > > > > > initial > > > > > > > > > > > > comment about volunteering for the project and what it > > > > really > > > > > > > > means. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 3:47 PM, Konstantin Boudnik < > > > > > > > > [email protected]> > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/professional > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 03:33PM, Sean Mackrory > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> but 'professional' always assumes 'getting > > paid > > > > for > > > > > > > > produced > > > > > > > > > > good > > > > > > > > > > > > or > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > services' > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > That is not true. It is often used to refer to > > > > conducting > > > > > > > > one's > > > > > > > > > > self > > > > > > > > > > > > in a > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dignified, ethical way. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 3:29 PM, Mark Grover < > > > > > > > > [email protected]> > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yeah, I agree with you Cos - we may be > > splitting > > > > hairs > > > > > > > > here. I > > > > > > > > > > > > > > personally > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > find that usage of professional perfectly fine > > in > > > > the > > > > > > > > context > > > > > > > > > > being > > > > > > > > > > > > > > used. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 2:26 PM, Konstantin > > > > Boudnik < > > > > > > > > > > > > [email protected]> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 03:06PM, Sean > > Mackrory > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm a +1. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Re: Cos's suggestions, I believe by > > > > > > "unprofessional" > > > > > > > > they > > > > > > > > > > are > > > > > > > > > > > > > > referring > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > anything contrary to the ethics and conduct > > > > > > associated > > > > > > > > > > with a > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > profession. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > See some of the definitions here: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.thefreedictionary.com/unprofessional. > > > > > > I'm > > > > > > > > fine > > > > > > > > > > > > with the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wording > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Not to steal the thread, but 'professional' > > > > always > > > > > > > > assumes > > > > > > > > > > > > 'getting > > > > > > > > > > > > > > paid > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > for > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > produced good or services'. If you aren't > > paid - > > > > it's > > > > > > > > your > > > > > > > > > > hobby > > > > > > > > > > > > or > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > charity. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thus, ASF isn't a professional association > > but a > > > > > > 503(c) > > > > > > > > > > > > organization. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Perhaps > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am splitting the hairs here but when you're > > > > dealing > > > > > > > > with > > > > > > > > > > one of > > > > > > > > > > > > > > those > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > three-letters agencies, you'd better be > > careful. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > with or without the suggested changes. > > Doesn't > > > > > > affect > > > > > > > > my +1 > > > > > > > > > > > > either > > > > > > > > > > > > > > way. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 1:20 PM, Andre > > Arcilla > > > > < > > > > > > > > > > > > [email protected] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > +1. Thanks. I hope the guidelines will > > > > finally > > > > > > put > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > twitter > > > > > > > > > > > > > > issue > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > rest. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Andre > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 11:48 AM, > > Konstantin > > > > > > Boudnik > > > > > > > > < > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [email protected] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I want to offer a couple of > > corrections to > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > language, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > without > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > changing > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > overall semantics: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Never post anything via social > > media you > > > > > > > > wouldn't > > > > > > > > > > want > > > > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > see > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > reported > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > on > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > news sites. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > if pretty vague. What if the intention > > is > > > > > > exactly > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > see > > > > > > > > > > > > this > > > > > > > > > > > > > > on > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > news > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sites? How about something like this > > > > instead: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Anything said in public is fair > > game > > > > for > > > > > > press. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Any info published in the social > > > > media > > > > > > can be > > > > > > > > > > > > > > interpreted to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > for > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > advantage of the project or > > > > otherwise. Be > > > > > > > > > > thoughtful > > > > > > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > possible > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > consequences of the posts. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Informal voice is OK, > > unprofessional is > > > > not. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Apache isn't a professional > > organization. > > > > By > > > > > > > > > > definition, > > > > > > > > > > > > all > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > participants > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > are > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > volunteers (which is reflected in the > > > > > > non-profit > > > > > > > > > > status of > > > > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Foundation). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hence, I don't see how "unprofessional" > > > > can fit > > > > > > > > into > > > > > > > > > > this. > > > > > > > > > > > > My > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > command of > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > English isn't so great, so perhaps > > someone > > > > else > > > > > > > > would > > > > > > > > > > be > > > > > > > > > > > > able > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > better > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > convey > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the proper meaning? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Bigtop does not have "sponsors", > > events > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > activities > > > > > > > > > > > > have > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sponsors. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This clause is redundant, I believe. > > This > > > > is > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > very > > > > > > > > > > core > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > definition of > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ASF, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > so we don't 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> > > > has > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > not > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > yet been accepted by the Bigtop > > > > community. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The original text was taken from > > Apache > > > > > > > > Cloudstack's > > > > > > > > > > > > Social > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Media > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Guidelines: Social Media Guidelines < > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/CLOUDSTACK/Social+Media+Guidelines > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Apache Bigtop Social Media > > Guidelines > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The Apache Bigtop project has a > > Twitter > > > > > > account > > > > > > > > > > > > (@ASFBigtop) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > can use to spread news about the > > project > > > > and > > > > > > > > promote > > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > project. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > * Apache Bigtop Social Media > > Guidelines > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > < > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/CLOUDSTACK/Social+Media+Guidelines#SocialMediaGuidelines-ApacheCloudStackSocialMediaGuidelines > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > o Access to Social Media > > Accounts > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > < > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/CLOUDSTACK/Social+Media+Guidelines#SocialMediaGuidelines-AccesstoSocialMediaAccounts > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > o Do's and Don'ts for Social > > Media > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > < > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/CLOUDSTACK/Social+Media+Guidelines#SocialMediaGuidelines-Do%27sandDon%27tsforSocialMedia > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Access to Social Media Accounts > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Access to the social media accounts > > can > > > > be > > > > > > > > granted > > > > > > > > > > to any > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > committer > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > or PMC member who would like to > > > > participate. > > > > > > When > > > > > > > > > > > > possible, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > access > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > will be through Hootsuite or another > > tool > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > does > > > > > > > > > > not > > > > > > > > > > > > > > require > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > disseminating the login credentials. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Do's and Don'ts for Social Media > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Before posting anything, you'll want > > to > > > > > > > > familiarize > > > > > > > > > > > > yourself > > > > > > > > > > > > > > with > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Apache's Media and Analyst Relations > > < > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.apache.org/press/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > page and brand management page > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > < > > http://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/ > > > > >. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Whether you're posting from a > > personal > > > > > > account > > > > > > > > > > *about* > > > > > > > > > > > > Apache > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bigtop > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > or posting from one of the official > > > > accounts, > > > > > > > > there > > > > > > > > > > are > > > > > > > > > > > > a few > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > things > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you want to keep in mind. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > * *Anything said in public is fair > > game > > > > for > > > > > > > > press.* > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > o Never post anything via social > > > > media > > > > > > you > > > > > > > > > > wouldn't > > > > > > > > > > > > > > want to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > see > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > reported on news sites. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > * Make sure what you're > > saying/sharing > > > > is > > > > > > > > > > appropriate > > > > > > > > > > > > for > > > > > > > > > > > > > > all > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > audiences, and reflects well on > > Apache > > > > > > Bigtop. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > o Be polite when talking about > > > > Bigtop > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > > responding to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > questions. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > o Informal voice is OK, > > > > unprofessional > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > not. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > o Absolutely no use of NSFW > > > > language, > > > > > > > > images, or > > > > > > > > > > > > > > scenarios > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > when > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > using official Apache Bigtop > > > > accounts > > > > > > - > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > avoid > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > associating > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Apache Bigtop with anything > > that > > > > is > > > > > > > > likely to > > > > > > > > > > be > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > considered > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > offensive. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > * Share relevant, positive > > information. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > o Feel free to share stories > > about > > > > > > Bigtop, > > > > > > > > > > whether > > > > > > > > > > > > they > > > > > > > > > > > > > > come > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > from > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the Bigtop community, tech > > press, > > > > or > > > > > > folks > > > > > > > > > > > > outside of > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > press > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and community. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > o Avoid sharing negative stories > > > > about > > > > > > > > > > "competing" > > > > > > > > > > > > > > projects. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > o Keep posts/reposts relevant. > > > > Everybody > > > > > > > > loves > > > > > > > > > > > > LOLCats, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > but > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it's > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > probably best not to share > > them > > > > from > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > official > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bigtop > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > social > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > media accounts. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > o Please share event > > information *so > > > > > > long as > > > > > > > > > > it's > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bigtop-related*. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > /e.g./ Promoting an event > > where > > > > there > > > > > > are > > > > > > > > > > talks > > > > > > > > > > > > about > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bigtop is > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > spot-on. Promoting an event > > only > > > > > > because a > > > > > > > > > > vendor > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that has > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > an > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > interest in Bigtop is > > > > participating > > > > > > would > > > > > > > > be > > > > > > > > > > > > outside > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > scope > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of Bigtop social media > > accounts. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > * Be sure information is public > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > o Companies sometimes discuss > > > > > > plans/ideas > > > > > > > > > > > > informally at > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > events. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It's often a good idea to ask > > > > before > > > > > > > > sharing > > > > > > > > > > > > > > information > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > on > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > social media if it might be > > > > considered > > > > > > > > > > non-public. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (For > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > example, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > information presented during a > > > > talk > > > > > > > > should be > > > > > > > > > > fair > > > > > > > > > > > > > > game. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Information shared over > > dinner may > > > > > > not be > > > > > > > > for > > > > > > > > > > > > public > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dissemination.) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > * Bigtop does not have "sponsors", > > > > events > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > activities > > > > > > > > > > > > > > have > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sponsors. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > o Avoid language like > > /$foo_company > > > > is > > > > > > > > > > sponsoring > > > > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Apache > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bigtop project/. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > o Companies *can* sponsor > > events and > > > > > > > > > > activities. For > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > example, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > /$foo_company is hosting a > > Bigtop > > > > > > meetup > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > > Atlanta > > > > > > > > > > > > > > this > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > weekend/. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > * Don't use Apache Bigtop social > > media > > > > > > accounts > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > > promote > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > unrelated > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > commercial activities. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > * *When in doubt, ask* > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > o If you're unclear on whether a > > > > post or > > > > > > > > item > > > > > > > > > > is OK, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ask on > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > project mailing list. The > > other > > > > > > > > contributors > > > > > > > > > > on > > > > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > list > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > will > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *always* be happy to discuss > > and > > > > guide > > > > > > > > other > > > > > > > > > > > > > > contributors > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > on > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > what is and isn't appropriate > > for > > > > our > > > > > > > > social > > > > > > > > > > media > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > activities. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
