On Tue, Oct 20, 2015 at 09:00PM, Andrew Purtell wrote:
> Thanks Evans. 
> 
> Cos: We do have the option to make new point releases and convenience repos
> from older code if someone asks, but I suspect there won't be such demand. 

True, we can. There's already a JIRA about the absence of 0.6 - that's why I
brought up this point.

Cos

> > On Oct 20, 2015, at 5:25 PM, Konstantin Boudnik <[email protected]> wrote:
> > 
> > Another part here is that _all_ our historical releases are gone ;(
> > 
> > It might be not a huge issue as we clearly encourage our users to stay on 
> > the
> > later stuff, but still it's a blow to the project. One of those 
> > non-so-obvious
> > things that are very clear when looked upon in the rear-view mirror.
> > 
> > Cos
> > 
> >> On Wed, Oct 21, 2015 at 02:34AM, Evans Ye wrote:
> >> Thanks Andrew!
> >> For temporarily dev/test usage, I've built packages back on our CI server:
> >> 
> >> http://ci.bigtop.apache.org:8080/view/Releases/
> >> 
> >> And added some wiki for users:
> >> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/BIGTOP/How+to+install+Bigtop+1.0.0+with+Bigtop+Provisioner
> >> 
> >> I think this is enough, if it won't take too long to get bigtop bucket back
> >> online.
> >> 
> >> OTOH, BIGTOP-2092 <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/BIGTOP-2092> 
> >> reveals
> >> that all the historical release artifacts are not available as well.
> >> My thought is to just provide 1.0 release artifacts.
> >> 
> >> Cos,
> >> right now I haven't used up the resource provided by Tom for CI. If needed
> >> I think we can re-negotiate with Tom for rearrangement to get some S3
> >> resources.
> >> Anyhow, if you need help, just ping me.
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 2015-10-21 0:22 GMT+08:00 Andrew Purtell <[email protected]>:
> >> 
> >>> FWIW, I was able to create the following buckets under my account:
> >>> 
> >>> bigtop-repo
> >>> bigtop-repos
> >>> 
> >>> If you want to go with one of these, even if only temporarily, let me know
> >>> and I'll send the PMC access credentials of an IAM user with full perms
> >>> over these buckets.
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> On Mon, Oct 19, 2015 at 2:08 PM, Sean Mackrory <[email protected]>
> >>> wrote:
> >>> 
> >>>>>> Sean, could you figure out how this can be done?
> >>>> 
> >>>> Sure. Although if the bucket ceased to exist when the account was
> >>>> terminated, the name should have been free again with a couple of hours.
> >>> So
> >>>> either the bucket has NOT ceased to exist, or someone other than Cloudera
> >>>> now has the bucket name.
> >>>> 
> >>>> I'll find out which...
> >>>> 
> >>>> On Mon, Oct 19, 2015 at 12:56 PM, Konstantin Boudnik <[email protected]>
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>> 
> >>>>>> On Sun, Oct 18, 2015 at 03:30PM, Evans Ye wrote:
> >>>>>> Guys I've a bad news.
> >>>>>> I'm guessing that our official released 1.0 repos on S3 are also tied
> >>>>> with
> >>>>>> Cloudera's credentials, which is why we no longer have S3 repos
> >>>> available
> >>>>>> for users to consume now(I've tried centos6 and debian8).
> >>>>>> That's really bad in user experience. :(
> >>>>>> Cos,
> >>>>>> * Could you please confirm where we put 1.0 repos on?
> >>>>>> * If my guess is right, do you still have copies of signed repos at
> >>>> local
> >>>>>> for restore?
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> I do have the copy of the repos, so it should be an easy exercise to
> >>>>> restore
> >>>>> them to the new location.
> >>>>> 
> >>>>>> * I don't have knowledge of how our current S3 resources are being
> >>>>> managed.
> >>>>>> And we don't have S3 resources available from Tom's team, hence I
> >>> think
> >>>>> we
> >>>>>> need to plan for this now.
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> Evans
> >>>>> 
> >>>>>> On Sun, Oct 18, 2015 at 10:53AM, Andrew Purtell wrote:
> >>>>>> Since the binary convenience artifacts are not an official release
> >>>>> artifact,
> >>>>>> only the source tarball is, then any of us can feel free to use the
> >>>>> official
> >>>>>> 1.0 release tarball to generate a new set of packages, store them at
> >>>> new
> >>>>>> locations, and update pointers to that location.
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> The new location *could* be Apache dist. Other projects host their
> >>>>>> convenience artifacts there. We need to consider the impact on
> >>>>>> infrastructure costs. I don't think there would be any significant
> >>>>> impact.
> >>>>>> We could mail infrastructure to find out if they have any concerns
> >>>> given
> >>>>> the
> >>>>>> space requirement if you prefer this option.
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> We have discussed it with INFRA in the early days of the project. And
> >>>>> precisely the cost impact was the reason we have kept it elsewhere. We
> >>>> are
> >>>>> talking about ~0.7GB/repo x 5 platforms (at least) x number of Apache
> >>>>> mirrors
> >>>>> - it's pretty huge, really.
> >>>>> 
> >>>>>> Bintray is another option. I don't know anything about it.
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> I also looked at creating a S3 bucket for Bigtop using my account. I
> >>>>> have a
> >>>>>> feeling monthly transfer charges will not be a problem. However the
> >>>>> 'bigtop'
> >>>>>> bucket is taken. Perhaps we could talk to Tom about getting ownership
> >>>>>> transferred if you prefer this option.
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> We need to ask Cloudera's infra team to transfer it to us. Sean, could
> >>>> you
> >>>>> figure out how this can be done?
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> Thanks!
> >>>>>  Cos
> >>>>> 
> >>>>>>> On Oct 18, 2015, at 4:42 AM, Olaf Flebbe <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>> Hi Cos,
> >>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>> Is it correct that we should not put our release artifacts on
> >>> apache
> >>>>> dist,
> >>>>>>> since Apache is about code not binaries?
> >>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>> Can we use something like bintray.org ? Looks like the
> >>> functionality
> >>>>> we need: RPM and DEB repo, and does have an API.
> >>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>> Olaf
> >>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>> Am 18.10.2015 um 09:30 schrieb Evans Ye <[email protected]>:
> >>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>> Guys I've a bad news.
> >>>>>>>> I'm guessing that our official released 1.0 repos on S3 are also
> >>>> tied
> >>>>> with
> >>>>>>>> Cloudera's credentials, which is why we no longer have S3 repos
> >>>>> available
> >>>>>>>> for users to consume now(I've tried centos6 and debian8).
> >>>>>>>> That's really bad in user experience. :(
> >>>>>>>> Cos,
> >>>>>>>> * Could you please confirm where we put 1.0 repos on?
> >>>>>>>> * If my guess is right, do you still have copies of signed repos
> >>> at
> >>>>> local
> >>>>>>>> for restore?
> >>>>>>>> * I don't have knowledge of how our current S3 resources are being
> >>>>> managed.
> >>>>>>>> And we don't have S3 resources available from Tom's team, hence I
> >>>>> think we
> >>>>>>>> need to plan for this now.
> >>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>> Evans
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> --
> >>> Best regards,
> >>> 
> >>>   - Andy
> >>> 
> >>> Problems worthy of attack prove their worth by hitting back. - Piet Hein
> >>> (via Tom White)
> >>> 

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