It might be some sort of name-retention policy in action on AWS part. Ah...
well, a lesson for the future.

Shall we get the bucket 'asfbigtop' to make it clear in the future?
  Cos

On Thu, Oct 22, 2015 at 03:07PM, Andrew Purtell wrote:
> Then unfortunately we should just move on, unless we want to try and get it
> from the current owner (using a trademark claim?). That would be at least
> time consuming. Want to use one of the buckets I managed to reserve? 
> 
> 
> > On Oct 22, 2015, at 2:58 PM, Sean Mackrory <[email protected]> wrote:
> > 
> > Yeah I'm afraid the account is gone, and that bucket is not under any other
> > account in our control. So if the bucket is not available, somebody else
> > must have claimed it.
> > 
> >> On Thu, Oct 22, 2015 at 9:54 AM, Evans Ye <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> 
> >> The best case is that Sean gets back with a news that the bucket is still
> >> managed under Cloudera so that we might be able to  backup things out and
> >> then delete the bucket.
> >> The worst case is someone took bigtop bucket so that we can only put 1.0
> >> packages in buckets created by Andrew and then update the 1.0 release repo
> >> files.
> >> 
> >> 2015-10-21 13:39 GMT+08:00 Konstantin Boudnik <[email protected]>:
> >> 
> >>>> On Tue, Oct 20, 2015 at 09:00PM, Andrew Purtell wrote:
> >>>> Thanks Evans.
> >>>> 
> >>>> Cos: We do have the option to make new point releases and convenience
> >>> repos
> >>>> from older code if someone asks, but I suspect there won't be such
> >>> demand.
> >>> 
> >>> True, we can. There's already a JIRA about the absence of 0.6 - that's
> >> why
> >>> I
> >>> brought up this point.
> >>> 
> >>> Cos
> >>> 
> >>>>> On Oct 20, 2015, at 5:25 PM, Konstantin Boudnik <[email protected]>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> Another part here is that _all_ our historical releases are gone ;(
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> It might be not a huge issue as we clearly encourage our users to
> >> stay
> >>> on the
> >>>>> later stuff, but still it's a blow to the project. One of those
> >>> non-so-obvious
> >>>>> things that are very clear when looked upon in the rear-view mirror.
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> Cos
> >>>>> 
> >>>>>> On Wed, Oct 21, 2015 at 02:34AM, Evans Ye wrote:
> >>>>>> Thanks Andrew!
> >>>>>> For temporarily dev/test usage, I've built packages back on our CI
> >>> server:
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> http://ci.bigtop.apache.org:8080/view/Releases/
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> And added some wiki for users:
> >> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/BIGTOP/How+to+install+Bigtop+1.0.0+with+Bigtop+Provisioner
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> I think this is enough, if it won't take too long to get bigtop
> >>> bucket back
> >>>>>> online.
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> OTOH, BIGTOP-2092 <
> >> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/BIGTOP-2092>
> >>> reveals
> >>>>>> that all the historical release artifacts are not available as well.
> >>>>>> My thought is to just provide 1.0 release artifacts.
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> Cos,
> >>>>>> right now I haven't used up the resource provided by Tom for CI. If
> >>> needed
> >>>>>> I think we can re-negotiate with Tom for rearrangement to get some
> >> S3
> >>>>>> resources.
> >>>>>> Anyhow, if you need help, just ping me.
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> 2015-10-21 0:22 GMT+08:00 Andrew Purtell <[email protected]>:
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>>> FWIW, I was able to create the following buckets under my account:
> >>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>> bigtop-repo
> >>>>>>> bigtop-repos
> >>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>> If you want to go with one of these, even if only temporarily, let
> >>> me know
> >>>>>>> and I'll send the PMC access credentials of an IAM user with full
> >>> perms
> >>>>>>> over these buckets.
> >>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 19, 2015 at 2:08 PM, Sean Mackrory <
> >> [email protected]
> >>>> 
> >>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>> Sean, could you figure out how this can be done?
> >>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>> Sure. Although if the bucket ceased to exist when the account was
> >>>>>>>> terminated, the name should have been free again with a couple of
> >>> hours.
> >>>>>>> So
> >>>>>>>> either the bucket has NOT ceased to exist, or someone other than
> >>> Cloudera
> >>>>>>>> now has the bucket name.
> >>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>> I'll find out which...
> >>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 19, 2015 at 12:56 PM, Konstantin Boudnik <
> >>> [email protected]>
> >>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Oct 18, 2015 at 03:30PM, Evans Ye wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>> Guys I've a bad news.
> >>>>>>>>>> I'm guessing that our official released 1.0 repos on S3 are also
> >>> tied
> >>>>>>>>> with
> >>>>>>>>>> Cloudera's credentials, which is why we no longer have S3 repos
> >>>>>>>> available
> >>>>>>>>>> for users to consume now(I've tried centos6 and debian8).
> >>>>>>>>>> That's really bad in user experience. :(
> >>>>>>>>>> Cos,
> >>>>>>>>>> * Could you please confirm where we put 1.0 repos on?
> >>>>>>>>>> * If my guess is right, do you still have copies of signed repos
> >>> at
> >>>>>>>> local
> >>>>>>>>>> for restore?
> >>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>> I do have the copy of the repos, so it should be an easy exercise
> >>> to
> >>>>>>>>> restore
> >>>>>>>>> them to the new location.
> >>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>> * I don't have knowledge of how our current S3 resources are
> >> being
> >>>>>>>>> managed.
> >>>>>>>>>> And we don't have S3 resources available from Tom's team, hence
> >> I
> >>>>>>> think
> >>>>>>>>> we
> >>>>>>>>>> need to plan for this now.
> >>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>> Evans
> >>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Oct 18, 2015 at 10:53AM, Andrew Purtell wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>> Since the binary convenience artifacts are not an official
> >> release
> >>>>>>>>> artifact,
> >>>>>>>>>> only the source tarball is, then any of us can feel free to use
> >>> the
> >>>>>>>>> official
> >>>>>>>>>> 1.0 release tarball to generate a new set of packages, store
> >> them
> >>> at
> >>>>>>>> new
> >>>>>>>>>> locations, and update pointers to that location.
> >>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>> The new location *could* be Apache dist. Other projects host
> >> their
> >>>>>>>>>> convenience artifacts there. We need to consider the impact on
> >>>>>>>>>> infrastructure costs. I don't think there would be any
> >> significant
> >>>>>>>>> impact.
> >>>>>>>>>> We could mail infrastructure to find out if they have any
> >> concerns
> >>>>>>>> given
> >>>>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>>> space requirement if you prefer this option.
> >>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>> We have discussed it with INFRA in the early days of the project.
> >>> And
> >>>>>>>>> precisely the cost impact was the reason we have kept it
> >>> elsewhere. We
> >>>>>>>> are
> >>>>>>>>> talking about ~0.7GB/repo x 5 platforms (at least) x number of
> >>> Apache
> >>>>>>>>> mirrors
> >>>>>>>>> - it's pretty huge, really.
> >>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>> Bintray is another option. I don't know anything about it.
> >>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>> I also looked at creating a S3 bucket for Bigtop using my
> >>> account. I
> >>>>>>>>> have a
> >>>>>>>>>> feeling monthly transfer charges will not be a problem. However
> >>> the
> >>>>>>>>> 'bigtop'
> >>>>>>>>>> bucket is taken. Perhaps we could talk to Tom about getting
> >>> ownership
> >>>>>>>>>> transferred if you prefer this option.
> >>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>> We need to ask Cloudera's infra team to transfer it to us. Sean,
> >>> could
> >>>>>>>> you
> >>>>>>>>> figure out how this can be done?
> >>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>> Thanks!
> >>>>>>>>> Cos
> >>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>> On Oct 18, 2015, at 4:42 AM, Olaf Flebbe <[email protected]>
> >> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>> Hi Cos,
> >>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>> Is it correct that we should not put our release artifacts on
> >>>>>>> apache
> >>>>>>>>> dist,
> >>>>>>>>>>> since Apache is about code not binaries?
> >>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>> Can we use something like bintray.org ? Looks like the
> >>>>>>> functionality
> >>>>>>>>> we need: RPM and DEB repo, and does have an API.
> >>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>> Olaf
> >>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Am 18.10.2015 um 09:30 schrieb Evans Ye <[email protected]>:
> >>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Guys I've a bad news.
> >>>>>>>>>>>> I'm guessing that our official released 1.0 repos on S3 are
> >> also
> >>>>>>>> tied
> >>>>>>>>> with
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Cloudera's credentials, which is why we no longer have S3
> >> repos
> >>>>>>>>> available
> >>>>>>>>>>>> for users to consume now(I've tried centos6 and debian8).
> >>>>>>>>>>>> That's really bad in user experience. :(
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Cos,
> >>>>>>>>>>>> * Could you please confirm where we put 1.0 repos on?
> >>>>>>>>>>>> * If my guess is right, do you still have copies of signed
> >> repos
> >>>>>>> at
> >>>>>>>>> local
> >>>>>>>>>>>> for restore?
> >>>>>>>>>>>> * I don't have knowledge of how our current S3 resources are
> >>> being
> >>>>>>>>> managed.
> >>>>>>>>>>>> And we don't have S3 resources available from Tom's team,
> >> hence
> >>> I
> >>>>>>>>> think we
> >>>>>>>>>>>> need to plan for this now.
> >>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Evans
> >>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>> Best regards,
> >>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>  - Andy
> >>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>> Problems worthy of attack prove their worth by hitting back. - Piet
> >>> Hein
> >>>>>>> (via Tom White)
> >> 

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