Andrew,

how we can upload the content to the buckets you have created? I think we need
to push out signed 1.0 bits, that I still have locally, and put this
inconvenience behind us.

Please let me know how I can get the credentials for the bucket. Thanks!
  Cos

On Thu, Oct 22, 2015 at 05:35PM, Andrew Purtell wrote:
> I don't really care but what's wrong with the ones I already claimed?
> 
> > On Oct 22, 2015, at 3:45 PM, Konstantin Boudnik <[email protected]> wrote:
> > 
> > It might be some sort of name-retention policy in action on AWS part. Ah...
> > well, a lesson for the future.
> > 
> > Shall we get the bucket 'asfbigtop' to make it clear in the future?
> >  Cos
> > 
> >> On Thu, Oct 22, 2015 at 03:07PM, Andrew Purtell wrote:
> >> Then unfortunately we should just move on, unless we want to try and get it
> >> from the current owner (using a trademark claim?). That would be at least
> >> time consuming. Want to use one of the buckets I managed to reserve? 
> >> 
> >> 
> >>> On Oct 22, 2015, at 2:58 PM, Sean Mackrory <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>> 
> >>> Yeah I'm afraid the account is gone, and that bucket is not under any 
> >>> other
> >>> account in our control. So if the bucket is not available, somebody else
> >>> must have claimed it.
> >>> 
> >>>> On Thu, Oct 22, 2015 at 9:54 AM, Evans Ye <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>>> 
> >>>> The best case is that Sean gets back with a news that the bucket is still
> >>>> managed under Cloudera so that we might be able to  backup things out and
> >>>> then delete the bucket.
> >>>> The worst case is someone took bigtop bucket so that we can only put 1.0
> >>>> packages in buckets created by Andrew and then update the 1.0 release 
> >>>> repo
> >>>> files.
> >>>> 
> >>>> 2015-10-21 13:39 GMT+08:00 Konstantin Boudnik <[email protected]>:
> >>>> 
> >>>>>> On Tue, Oct 20, 2015 at 09:00PM, Andrew Purtell wrote:
> >>>>>> Thanks Evans.
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> Cos: We do have the option to make new point releases and convenience
> >>>>> repos
> >>>>>> from older code if someone asks, but I suspect there won't be such
> >>>>> demand.
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> True, we can. There's already a JIRA about the absence of 0.6 - that's
> >>>> why
> >>>>> I
> >>>>> brought up this point.
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> Cos
> >>>>> 
> >>>>>>> On Oct 20, 2015, at 5:25 PM, Konstantin Boudnik <[email protected]>
> >>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>> Another part here is that _all_ our historical releases are gone ;(
> >>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>> It might be not a huge issue as we clearly encourage our users to
> >>>> stay
> >>>>> on the
> >>>>>>> later stuff, but still it's a blow to the project. One of those
> >>>>> non-so-obvious
> >>>>>>> things that are very clear when looked upon in the rear-view mirror.
> >>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>> Cos
> >>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>> On Wed, Oct 21, 2015 at 02:34AM, Evans Ye wrote:
> >>>>>>>> Thanks Andrew!
> >>>>>>>> For temporarily dev/test usage, I've built packages back on our CI
> >>>>> server:
> >>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>> http://ci.bigtop.apache.org:8080/view/Releases/
> >>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>> And added some wiki for users:
> >>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/BIGTOP/How+to+install+Bigtop+1.0.0+with+Bigtop+Provisioner
> >>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>> I think this is enough, if it won't take too long to get bigtop
> >>>>> bucket back
> >>>>>>>> online.
> >>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>> OTOH, BIGTOP-2092 <
> >>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/BIGTOP-2092>
> >>>>> reveals
> >>>>>>>> that all the historical release artifacts are not available as well.
> >>>>>>>> My thought is to just provide 1.0 release artifacts.
> >>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>> Cos,
> >>>>>>>> right now I haven't used up the resource provided by Tom for CI. If
> >>>>> needed
> >>>>>>>> I think we can re-negotiate with Tom for rearrangement to get some
> >>>> S3
> >>>>>>>> resources.
> >>>>>>>> Anyhow, if you need help, just ping me.
> >>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>> 2015-10-21 0:22 GMT+08:00 Andrew Purtell <[email protected]>:
> >>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>> FWIW, I was able to create the following buckets under my account:
> >>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>> bigtop-repo
> >>>>>>>>> bigtop-repos
> >>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>> If you want to go with one of these, even if only temporarily, let
> >>>>> me know
> >>>>>>>>> and I'll send the PMC access credentials of an IAM user with full
> >>>>> perms
> >>>>>>>>> over these buckets.
> >>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 19, 2015 at 2:08 PM, Sean Mackrory <
> >>>> [email protected]
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Sean, could you figure out how this can be done?
> >>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>> Sure. Although if the bucket ceased to exist when the account was
> >>>>>>>>>> terminated, the name should have been free again with a couple of
> >>>>> hours.
> >>>>>>>>> So
> >>>>>>>>>> either the bucket has NOT ceased to exist, or someone other than
> >>>>> Cloudera
> >>>>>>>>>> now has the bucket name.
> >>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>> I'll find out which...
> >>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 19, 2015 at 12:56 PM, Konstantin Boudnik <
> >>>>> [email protected]>
> >>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Oct 18, 2015 at 03:30PM, Evans Ye wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Guys I've a bad news.
> >>>>>>>>>>>> I'm guessing that our official released 1.0 repos on S3 are also
> >>>>> tied
> >>>>>>>>>>> with
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Cloudera's credentials, which is why we no longer have S3 repos
> >>>>>>>>>> available
> >>>>>>>>>>>> for users to consume now(I've tried centos6 and debian8).
> >>>>>>>>>>>> That's really bad in user experience. :(
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Cos,
> >>>>>>>>>>>> * Could you please confirm where we put 1.0 repos on?
> >>>>>>>>>>>> * If my guess is right, do you still have copies of signed repos
> >>>>> at
> >>>>>>>>>> local
> >>>>>>>>>>>> for restore?
> >>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>> I do have the copy of the repos, so it should be an easy exercise
> >>>>> to
> >>>>>>>>>>> restore
> >>>>>>>>>>> them to the new location.
> >>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>> * I don't have knowledge of how our current S3 resources are
> >>>> being
> >>>>>>>>>>> managed.
> >>>>>>>>>>>> And we don't have S3 resources available from Tom's team, hence
> >>>> I
> >>>>>>>>> think
> >>>>>>>>>>> we
> >>>>>>>>>>>> need to plan for this now.
> >>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Evans
> >>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Oct 18, 2015 at 10:53AM, Andrew Purtell wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Since the binary convenience artifacts are not an official
> >>>> release
> >>>>>>>>>>> artifact,
> >>>>>>>>>>>> only the source tarball is, then any of us can feel free to use
> >>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>>>> official
> >>>>>>>>>>>> 1.0 release tarball to generate a new set of packages, store
> >>>> them
> >>>>> at
> >>>>>>>>>> new
> >>>>>>>>>>>> locations, and update pointers to that location.
> >>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>> The new location *could* be Apache dist. Other projects host
> >>>> their
> >>>>>>>>>>>> convenience artifacts there. We need to consider the impact on
> >>>>>>>>>>>> infrastructure costs. I don't think there would be any
> >>>> significant
> >>>>>>>>>>> impact.
> >>>>>>>>>>>> We could mail infrastructure to find out if they have any
> >>>> concerns
> >>>>>>>>>> given
> >>>>>>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>>>>> space requirement if you prefer this option.
> >>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>> We have discussed it with INFRA in the early days of the project.
> >>>>> And
> >>>>>>>>>>> precisely the cost impact was the reason we have kept it
> >>>>> elsewhere. We
> >>>>>>>>>> are
> >>>>>>>>>>> talking about ~0.7GB/repo x 5 platforms (at least) x number of
> >>>>> Apache
> >>>>>>>>>>> mirrors
> >>>>>>>>>>> - it's pretty huge, really.
> >>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Bintray is another option. I don't know anything about it.
> >>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>> I also looked at creating a S3 bucket for Bigtop using my
> >>>>> account. I
> >>>>>>>>>>> have a
> >>>>>>>>>>>> feeling monthly transfer charges will not be a problem. However
> >>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>>>> 'bigtop'
> >>>>>>>>>>>> bucket is taken. Perhaps we could talk to Tom about getting
> >>>>> ownership
> >>>>>>>>>>>> transferred if you prefer this option.
> >>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>> We need to ask Cloudera's infra team to transfer it to us. Sean,
> >>>>> could
> >>>>>>>>>> you
> >>>>>>>>>>> figure out how this can be done?
> >>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>> Thanks!
> >>>>>>>>>>> Cos
> >>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Oct 18, 2015, at 4:42 AM, Olaf Flebbe <[email protected]>
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Cos,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Is it correct that we should not put our release artifacts on
> >>>>>>>>> apache
> >>>>>>>>>>> dist,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> since Apache is about code not binaries?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Can we use something like bintray.org ? Looks like the
> >>>>>>>>> functionality
> >>>>>>>>>>> we need: RPM and DEB repo, and does have an API.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Olaf
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Am 18.10.2015 um 09:30 schrieb Evans Ye <[email protected]>:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Guys I've a bad news.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm guessing that our official released 1.0 repos on S3 are
> >>>> also
> >>>>>>>>>> tied
> >>>>>>>>>>> with
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cloudera's credentials, which is why we no longer have S3
> >>>> repos
> >>>>>>>>>>> available
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> for users to consume now(I've tried centos6 and debian8).
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> That's really bad in user experience. :(
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cos,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> * Could you please confirm where we put 1.0 repos on?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> * If my guess is right, do you still have copies of signed
> >>>> repos
> >>>>>>>>> at
> >>>>>>>>>>> local
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> for restore?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> * I don't have knowledge of how our current S3 resources are
> >>>>> being
> >>>>>>>>>>> managed.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> And we don't have S3 resources available from Tom's team,
> >>>> hence
> >>>>> I
> >>>>>>>>>>> think we
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> need to plan for this now.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Evans
> >>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>>> Best regards,
> >>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>> - Andy
> >>>>>>>>> 
> >>>>>>>>> Problems worthy of attack prove their worth by hitting back. - Piet
> >>>>> Hein
> >>>>>>>>> (via Tom White)
> >>>> 

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