I would agree with the points that Ben raises, +1 to Slack.

As a casual and infrequent contributor to BuildStream I find Slack
much easier and friendlier to handle and passively be a member of. No
need to setup (and pay for...) BNCs and the like to be able to review
history; more friendly user profiles with avatars and richer markdown.

I do agree that the invite process for slack is more convoluted than
it should be, but setting up an IRC client correctly with SSL,
nickservs, BNCs etc. isn't exactly a point and click operation either.
In addition to that it is often impossible to configure a decent IRC
client behind a corporate firewall, which would exclude a portion of
our population. I think one of the goals for selecting this
communication channel should be to be able to include as many people
as possible, whatever their skill level and background.

I haven't used IRC since 2010 so maybe some of the above has moved on.
In my mind low barriers to entry are the biggest reason Slack has
worked well for me.

Ed

On Fri, 10 Jul 2020 at 06:32, Benjamin Schubert <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Hey,
>
> TLDR: slack +1, IRC -0
>
> My reasoning:
>
> Slack is commonly and easily available from the web, an android/iphone/ubuntu 
> touch app, desktop apps and such.
>
> It is much easier for anyone to use, with configurable notifications across 
> all devices, silent notifications
> during certain hours etc. Basically it is much harder to miss something 
> important coming
> from slack than coming from IRC.
>
> Most of the 'build' related projects are also on slack.
>
>
> IRC:
>
> IRC is a pain to keep synced with settings accross multiple devices. Some 
> third party
> systems exist to do that for you but are either paying, or limited in 
> capabilities,
> (Not to see regularly down).
>
>
> Ben
>
> ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐
> On Friday, 10 July 2020 10:20, Tristan Daniël Maat 
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > > Just a quick +1 to IRC, -1 to Slack. My reasoning is based on my 
> > > experience
> > > with the build team slack, which I found difficult to join due to the only
> > > ingress
> >
> > My two cents, I also found this more difficult than necessary.
> >
> > > competent users than I may have an easier time of it.
> >
> > Though I doubt it's that, I simply think Slack isn't designed with
> > public chats in mind. An "invite" shouldn't be necessary, and a link
> > to it shouldn't expire.
> >
> > I'd also oppose a suggestion to use Discord for the same reasons,
> > which has unfortunately also been gaining traction in open source
> > projects...
> >
> > Since this has been a very one-sided conversation so far, I wonder
> > what the advantages of switching to Slack would be. Is this simply
> > being suggested because we want a pretty chat client, or is there more
> > to it?
> >
> > Some of the benefits would include better moderation capabilities, I
> > believe, but I don't currently see a need for that.
> >
> > The suggestion to use Slack might be more welcome if current
> > contributors aren't simply asked if they want to switch with no
> > apparent benefits ;)
> >
> > Tristan Maat
>
>

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