Enrico, I agree that votes from committers and community members should be taken seriously (especially when they highlight flaws in the release).
I also agree that encouraging non-committers to join the community is important. I would like to see them reviewing PRs and voting on releases. I think that the vote format is neutral on this. Hopefully non-committers will see other non-committers voting and be encouraged to participate more. I intend to include language in the vote email that makes clear that votes are welcome from everyone. Julian > On Sep 14, 2024, at 2:01 AM, Enrico Olivelli <eolive...@gmail.com> wrote: > > I think that adding '(binding)' is enough to count the votes cast by the > PMC. > > I am suggesting this because we should encourage people not being > committer/PMC member to validate and cast their vote. > > IMHO Adding too many labels next to the name and the +1 may bias the > testing and the validation. Like thinking that the validation from someone > is 'better' that the others because it has that label. > The same is for -1. Any concerns about the goodness of the release should > have the same weight, even if it is coming from a new user. > > It seems to me that this is an healthy community, and we know each other > (no need to check the Apache id) and there is no need to show the labels > too much. > > My 2 cents, from the peanuts gallery > > Enrico > > > Il Sab 14 Set 2024, 08:57 Francis Chuang <francischu...@apache.org> ha > scritto: > >> +1, this is good for consistency. >> >> On 14/09/2024 7:22 am, Stamatis Zampetakis wrote: >>> It's easier to understand who is who without checking the index [1] >>> that I do occasionally. >>> >>> +1 zabetak (PMC) >>> >>> [1] https://people.apache.org/committer-index.html >>> >>> On Fri, Sep 13, 2024 at 10:16 PM Julian Hyde <jh...@apache.org> wrote: >>>> >>>> There is a discussion in the Incubator list [1] that proposes a more >>>> structured format for the line that people write in their email >>>> message when they vote. >>>> >>>> The problem is that some people use multiple names, email accounts, >>>> github accounts, and that tallying votes requires some effort. >>>> >>>> The proposed solution is that people would use a structured line when >>>> they vote, consisting of their vote (-1, 0, +1), their ASF id if they >>>> have one, and their role (committer, PMC member, community member). >>>> For example, my vote would be >>>> >>>> +1 jhyde (PMC) >>>> >>>> In my opinion, Calcite should adopt this. The email starting a vote >>>> would recommend that people use that format. Votes would still be >>>> counted if people use a different format. >>>> >>>> What do you think? >>>> >>>> Julian >>>> >>>> [1] https://lists.apache.org/thread/xkfrnt8f733hhokmh0lvyhsn50x4qfw0 >> >>
