IMO, Avatica is still too young to be it's own Incubator. I'm thinking of most of the projects I've noticed coming to Incubator in the past, the common thread amongst them is production deployments and a largish (5+ people) committer base. I think Avatica is still smaller and younger than is. Calcite isn't harmed by maintaining Avatica, nor is Avatica "held back" by Calcite. We've seen other TLP's spin out projects (ORC from Hive, HBase from Hadoop, the recent Yetus from Hadoop). Let's allow Avatica to develop (or not) on its own schedule, or until it becomes a in some why burden on Calcite.
-n On Wed, Aug 12, 2015 at 1:31 PM, Julian Hyde <[email protected]> wrote: > I’d like to introduce a meta-discussion into this thread. > > Calcite’s Avatica module[1] is growing into a separate community. Calcite > depends upon Avatica but not vice versa. At some point I would like to > consider splitting Avatica out as a separate project (an incubation project > and ultimately a TLP). There is no particular urgency to this decision. > > Is now a good time to have that discussion, or is it better to have that > discussion after graduation? > > Julian > > [1] http://calcite.incubator.apache.org/docs/avatica.html > > > On Aug 10, 2015, at 8:03 PM, James Taylor <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > > +1 to graduation. I think diversity is increasing and the project is on > an > > excellent trajectory. > > Thanks, > > James > > > > On Mon, Aug 10, 2015 at 7:58 PM, Julian Hyde <[email protected]> wrote: > > > >> I do commit quite a large proportion of third-party contributions. But > >> these days it’s common for others to get involved the discussion when > >> there’s a new patch. Pull #106 [1] is typical: Sean provided a patch, > >> Vladimir reviewed, I ended up committing. > >> > >> I’d be delighted if other committers shared the load of committing. (As > I > >> said they’re already doing a lot of the reviewing. And committing their > own > >> contributions.) > >> > >> Julian > >> > >> [1] https://github.com/apache/incubator-calcite/pull/106 < > >> https://github.com/apache/incubator-calcite/pull/106> > >> > >>> On Aug 10, 2015, at 3:25 PM, Jacques Nadeau <[email protected]> > wrote: > >>> > >>> One random question. I have some sense that the vast majority of > commits > >>> are still being merged by Julian. (even when the patches are generated > by > >>> others). I haven't actually quantified/determined whether this is true > >> but > >>> wanted to ask. I don't think this is a showstopper for graduation but > I > >>> think we should get that more spread out if it is still the case. > >>> > >>> On Mon, Aug 10, 2015 at 2:27 PM, Julian Hyde <[email protected]> wrote: > >>> > >>>> Is Calcite ready to graduate from the incubator and become a TLP > >>>> (top-level project)? > >>>> > >>>> See the policy [1] and guidelines [2]. > >>>> > >>>> Julian > >>>> > >>>> [1] http://incubator.apache.org/incubation/Incubation_Policy.html < > >>>> http://incubator.apache.org/incubation/Incubation_Policy.html> > >>>> > >>>> [2] http://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html < > >>>> http://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html> > >> > >> > >
