+1 on Julian as initial VP, if he's interested in holding the responsibility. I like Jacques's suggestion of a "renewal consideration" on some interval. I'm not sure this is necessary to include as bylaws, more like a healthy practice for a democratically organized endeavor.
-n On Wed, Sep 2, 2015 at 10:03 PM, Jacques Nadeau <[email protected]> wrote: > My thoughts on this are a little different. I like the concept as it simply > causes a discussion to happen once a year. The community can always choose > to have the same person. This just helps us lazy people to remember to > discuss this on occasion. Momentum is great and time flies. I like having a > reminder once in a while... > On Sep 2, 2015 9:49 PM, "Ted Dunning" <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Hmmm. Rotating often is really good for spreading knowledge. > > > > If calcite has any defect it is the tendency to depend on Julian's high > > throughput. Hard to argue with in the moment but the project will do > > better from spreading the load and experience. Having Jacques run the > last > > release was a great step in that direction. > > > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > > > On Sep 2, 2015, at 21:10, James Taylor <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > +1 to Julian as VP. If folks are willing to step up for taking the > reins, > > > that's a good idea, but a yearly rotation may be too frequent > (especially > > > initially) IMHO. > > > > > >> On Wed, Sep 2, 2015 at 8:48 PM, Jacques Nadeau <[email protected]> > > wrote: > > >> > > >> I appreciate the humility but I think it is a no-brainer that Julian > > should > > >> be the VP. The one thought I suggest is having a rotating chair each > > year. > > >> Thoughts on that? > > >> > > >> > > >>> On Tue, Sep 1, 2015 at 5:48 PM, Julian Hyde <[email protected]> > wrote: > > >>> > > >>> Let’s agree on the text of the motion before we start a vote. I > propose > > >>> the following text (see below). > > >>> > > >>> If you are a committer, please: > > >>> > > >>> 1. Review the text. > > >>> > > >>> 2. Remove your name from the list, if you do NOT wish to remain a > > >>> committer after graduation. (You can email me privately if you > prefer.) > > >>> > > >>> 3. Send nominations for an initial Vice President. (This will replace > > the > > >>> placeholder, "<TBD>”, in the text below.) > > >>> > > >>> At Ted’s suggestion, I started a thread on the Incubator list asking > a > > >>> shepherd to review. > > >>> > > >>> Julian > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> - - - - snip > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best interests > of > > >>> the Foundation and consistent with the Foundation's purpose to > > establish > > >> a > > >>> Project Management Committee charged with the creation and > maintenance > > of > > >>> open-source software, for distribution at no charge to the public, > > >> related > > >>> to parsing and planning queries on data in a wide variety of formats. > > >>> > > >>> NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management Committee > > >> (PMC), > > >>> to be known as the "Apache Calcite Project", be and hereby is > > established > > >>> pursuant to Bylaws of the Foundation; and be it further > > >>> > > >>> RESOLVED, that the Apache Calcite Project be and hereby is > responsible > > >> for > > >>> the creation and maintenance of software related to interactive > > analysis > > >> of > > >>> large-scale datasets; and be it further RESOLVED, that the office of > > >> "Vice > > >>> President, Apache Calcite" be and hereby is created, the person > holding > > >>> such office to serve at the direction of the Board of Directors as > the > > >>> chair of the Apache Calcite Project, and to have primary > responsibility > > >> for > > >>> management of the projects within the scope of responsibility of the > > >> Apache > > >>> Calcite Project; and be it further RESOLVED, that the persons listed > > >>> immediately below be and hereby are appointed to serve as the initial > > >>> members of the Apache Calcite Project: > > >>> > > >>> * Alan Gates <gates at apache dot org> > > >>> * Aman Sinha <amansinha at apache dot org> > > >>> * Ashutosh Chauhan <hashutosh at apache dot org> > > >>> * Chris Wensel <cwensel at apache dot org> > > >>> * James R. Taylor <jamestaylor at apache dot org> > > >>> * Jacques Nadeau <jacques at apache dot org> > > >>> * Jesús Camacho Rodríguez <jcamacho at apache dot org> > > >>> * Jinfeng Ni <jni at apache dot org> > > >>> * John Pullokkaran <jpullokk at apache dot org> > > >>> * Julian Hyde <jhyde at apache dot org> > > >>> * Nick Dimiduk <ndimiduk at apache dot org> > > >>> * Steven Noels <stevenn at apache dot org> > > >>> * Ted Dunning <tdunning at apache dot org> > > >>> * Vladimir Sitnikov <vladimirsitnikov at apache dot org> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that <TBD> be appointed to > the > > >>> office of Vice President, Apache Calcite, to serve in accordance with > > and > > >>> subject to the direction of the Board of Directors and the Bylaws of > > the > > >>> Foundation until death, resignation, retirement, removal or > > >>> disqualification, or until a successor is appointed; and be it > further > > >>> > > >>> RESOLVED, that the Apache Calcite Project be and hereby is tasked > with > > >> the > > >>> migration and rationalization of the Apache Incubator Calcite > podling; > > >> and > > >>> be it further > > >>> > > >>> RESOLVED, that all responsibilities pertaining to the Apache > Incubator > > >>> Calcite podling encumbered upon the Apache Incubator Project are > > >> hereafter > > >>> discharged. > > >>> > > >>> - - - - > > >> > > >
