Now that this discussion has reached equilibrium I’ll start a vote. Per the discussion: * One person asked to be removed from the list and the motion will reflect that. * I will put myself forward as the initial VP. * No bylaws, but we reached a consensus in the discussion that the post of VP should come up annually.
Julian > On Sep 5, 2015, at 10:15 AM, Julian Hyde <[email protected]> wrote: > > I’m happy to serve as the initial VP if that is the consensus. > > I like the idea that the post comes up annually, and that triggers a “state > of the project” discussion. And it would be great if I can rotate the role to > someone else. I share Ted’s concerns about diversity - not just in the VP, > but also in release managers and committers (i.e. people taking third-party > contributions and committing them to master branch). > > To improve diversity, I think it would help if we start counting and > reporting who is doing third-party commits. There’s too much of me right now. > > Also, it doesn’t need to be in the bylaws, but after graduation, let’s agree > a “start date” so that the appointment is exactly a year. (Analogous to Jan > 20 for US presidents.) > > Julian > > >> On Sep 3, 2015, at 10:55 PM, Nick Dimiduk <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> +1 on Julian as initial VP, if he's interested in holding the >> responsibility. I like Jacques's suggestion of a "renewal consideration" on >> some interval. I'm not sure this is necessary to include as bylaws, more >> like a healthy practice for a democratically organized endeavor. >> >> -n >> >> On Wed, Sep 2, 2015 at 10:03 PM, Jacques Nadeau <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> My thoughts on this are a little different. I like the concept as it simply >>> causes a discussion to happen once a year. The community can always choose >>> to have the same person. This just helps us lazy people to remember to >>> discuss this on occasion. Momentum is great and time flies. I like having a >>> reminder once in a while... >>> On Sep 2, 2015 9:49 PM, "Ted Dunning" <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> Hmmm. Rotating often is really good for spreading knowledge. >>>> >>>> If calcite has any defect it is the tendency to depend on Julian's high >>>> throughput. Hard to argue with in the moment but the project will do >>>> better from spreading the load and experience. Having Jacques run the >>> last >>>> release was a great step in that direction. >>>> >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> >>>>> On Sep 2, 2015, at 21:10, James Taylor <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> +1 to Julian as VP. If folks are willing to step up for taking the >>> reins, >>>>> that's a good idea, but a yearly rotation may be too frequent >>> (especially >>>>> initially) IMHO. >>>>> >>>>>> On Wed, Sep 2, 2015 at 8:48 PM, Jacques Nadeau <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> I appreciate the humility but I think it is a no-brainer that Julian >>>> should >>>>>> be the VP. The one thought I suggest is having a rotating chair each >>>> year. >>>>>> Thoughts on that? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Tue, Sep 1, 2015 at 5:48 PM, Julian Hyde <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Let’s agree on the text of the motion before we start a vote. I >>> propose >>>>>>> the following text (see below). >>>>>>> >>>>>>> If you are a committer, please: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 1. Review the text. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 2. Remove your name from the list, if you do NOT wish to remain a >>>>>>> committer after graduation. (You can email me privately if you >>> prefer.) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 3. Send nominations for an initial Vice President. (This will replace >>>> the >>>>>>> placeholder, "<TBD>”, in the text below.) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> At Ted’s suggestion, I started a thread on the Incubator list asking >>> a >>>>>>> shepherd to review. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Julian >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> - - - - snip >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best interests >>> of >>>>>>> the Foundation and consistent with the Foundation's purpose to >>>> establish >>>>>> a >>>>>>> Project Management Committee charged with the creation and >>> maintenance >>>> of >>>>>>> open-source software, for distribution at no charge to the public, >>>>>> related >>>>>>> to parsing and planning queries on data in a wide variety of formats. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management Committee >>>>>> (PMC), >>>>>>> to be known as the "Apache Calcite Project", be and hereby is >>>> established >>>>>>> pursuant to Bylaws of the Foundation; and be it further >>>>>>> >>>>>>> RESOLVED, that the Apache Calcite Project be and hereby is >>> responsible >>>>>> for >>>>>>> the creation and maintenance of software related to interactive >>>> analysis >>>>>> of >>>>>>> large-scale datasets; and be it further RESOLVED, that the office of >>>>>> "Vice >>>>>>> President, Apache Calcite" be and hereby is created, the person >>> holding >>>>>>> such office to serve at the direction of the Board of Directors as >>> the >>>>>>> chair of the Apache Calcite Project, and to have primary >>> responsibility >>>>>> for >>>>>>> management of the projects within the scope of responsibility of the >>>>>> Apache >>>>>>> Calcite Project; and be it further RESOLVED, that the persons listed >>>>>>> immediately below be and hereby are appointed to serve as the initial >>>>>>> members of the Apache Calcite Project: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> * Alan Gates <gates at apache dot org> >>>>>>> * Aman Sinha <amansinha at apache dot org> >>>>>>> * Ashutosh Chauhan <hashutosh at apache dot org> >>>>>>> * Chris Wensel <cwensel at apache dot org> >>>>>>> * James R. Taylor <jamestaylor at apache dot org> >>>>>>> * Jacques Nadeau <jacques at apache dot org> >>>>>>> * Jesús Camacho Rodríguez <jcamacho at apache dot org> >>>>>>> * Jinfeng Ni <jni at apache dot org> >>>>>>> * John Pullokkaran <jpullokk at apache dot org> >>>>>>> * Julian Hyde <jhyde at apache dot org> >>>>>>> * Nick Dimiduk <ndimiduk at apache dot org> >>>>>>> * Steven Noels <stevenn at apache dot org> >>>>>>> * Ted Dunning <tdunning at apache dot org> >>>>>>> * Vladimir Sitnikov <vladimirsitnikov at apache dot org> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that <TBD> be appointed to >>> the >>>>>>> office of Vice President, Apache Calcite, to serve in accordance with >>>> and >>>>>>> subject to the direction of the Board of Directors and the Bylaws of >>>> the >>>>>>> Foundation until death, resignation, retirement, removal or >>>>>>> disqualification, or until a successor is appointed; and be it >>> further >>>>>>> >>>>>>> RESOLVED, that the Apache Calcite Project be and hereby is tasked >>> with >>>>>> the >>>>>>> migration and rationalization of the Apache Incubator Calcite >>> podling; >>>>>> and >>>>>>> be it further >>>>>>> >>>>>>> RESOLVED, that all responsibilities pertaining to the Apache >>> Incubator >>>>>>> Calcite podling encumbered upon the Apache Incubator Project are >>>>>> hereafter >>>>>>> discharged. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> - - - - >>>>>> >>>> >>> >
