Hello again, So I tried to reach out to com-dev beginning this month[1] and it seems to be a dead end. Some answers[2] even suggest that it is up to the PMCs.
So in line of the two previous votes[3] [4] I think we should go ahead and continue the move to github. Best regards // Pontus [1] http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/community-dev/201509.mbox/%3CCABe1WL-mcFvPUmUwjLXmgLUOSSQUrhT5z7Adj2WPVS8NwSQnuA%40mail.gmail.com%3E [2] http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/community-dev/201509.mbox/%3ccadmm+kcy9c6rgodshexgsrduu7jur06jwcs9yp-hc8mapm6...@mail.gmail.com%3E [3] http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/camel-dev/201504.mbox/%3C1391078472.16070484.1428686018450.JavaMail.zimbra%40redhat.com%3E [4] http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/camel-dev/201504.mbox/%3C301126299.246793.1429101018000.JavaMail.zimbra%40redhat.com%3E On Fri, 4 Sep 2015 at 19:54 Pontus Ullgren <ullg...@gmail.com> wrote: > While I personally think that is github is superior to what SF offers > (and that bitbucket is superior to github) for camel-extra I don't think > the choice of hosting company is that big a deal. > > Camel-Extra currently uses > * Mailing list provided by nabble ( > http://camel-extra.1091541.n5.nabble.com/) > * Jenkins provided by cloudbees (https://camel-extra.ci.cloudbees.com/) > * SonarQube provided by SonarQube ( > http://nemo.sonarqube.org/dashboard/index/564228) > * Jira for issues provided by Atlassian ( > https://camel-extra.atlassian.net/browse/CAMEX) > * End user component documentations are hosted on the main camel project > wiki > > So even back when we where on google code the only thing that it was used > for was to > provide a wiki for some project specific documentation such as release > notes and most important > the GIT repo. > > So as long as the service provider provides git, a simple way of hosting > some documentation and > has a good reputation of keeping a good uptime on the service in my > opinion it is not that big a deal > where or what is hosting it. The important thing is that we get this up > read-write ASAP. > > > Just my $0.02 > // Pontus > > On Fri, 4 Sep 2015 at 17:59 Raul Kripalani <r...@evosent.com> wrote: > >> Hi Rob, >> >> I think camel-extras belongs to the Apache Extras [1] umbrella... >> >> That said, I'm not quite sure what's the point of grouping all "extras" >> from all projects under a common ASF umbrella – I'm assuming it's for ASF >> organisational reasons. It definitely doesn't serve a technical reason nor >> an administrative one: (a) each Extras project is more closely related to >> the parent than to all other Extras project in ASF and (b) the roles in >> the >> camel-extras "organisation" do show some correlation with the roles at >> Apache Camel, but they are not necessarily tied together, i.e. there's no >> requirement that a committer in camel-extras has to be a committer in >> Apache Camel, right? >> >> [1] https://community.apache.org/apache-extras/faq.html >> >> Regards, >> Raúl. >> >> On Fri, Sep 4, 2015 at 3:59 PM, Rob Davies <rajdav...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> > The way I read it is comdev are doing a mass migration to SF - its >> > understandable they wouldn’t want multiple targets - so to pick one >> > destination for the code move makes sense. However its not clear that we >> > have to keep camel-extra at SF - or why we couldn’t just move it to >> GitHub >> > ourselves ? >> > >> > >> > > On 4 Sep 2015, at 15:54, Pontus Ullgren <ullg...@gmail.com> wrote: >> > > >> > > Victor and David: You are welcome to join the com-dev mailing list and >> > > enlighten them. >> > > Here is a link the latest answer on that question :-) >> > > >> > > >> > >> https://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/community-dev/201507.mbox/%3CBY2PR03MB490B6943E12F5D925203A2E99900%40BY2PR03MB490.namprd03.prod.outlook.com%3E >> > > >> > > // Pontus >> > > >> > > >> > > On Fri, 4 Sep 2015 at 16:01 David Karlsen <davidkarl...@gmail.com> >> > wrote: >> > > >> > >> Why not github? >> > >> 4. sep. 2015 3:54 p.m. skrev "Victor NOËL" <victor.n...@linagora.com >> >: >> > >> >> > >>> Are they even aware of the problem with sourceforge? >> > >>> Maybe someone that is known there (such as a member of an Apache >> > Project >> > >>> ;) could tell them before they take the wrong decision? >> > >>> >> > >>> It's even worse than what I thought because after the Gimp people >> told >> > SF >> > >>> to stop doing their shady things, they actually insisted during >> 2015: >> > >>> >> > >> >> > >> https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-developer-list/2015-May/msg00097.html >> > >>> >> > >> >> > >> https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-developer-list/2015-May/msg00098.html >> > >>> >> > >>> Victor >> > >>> >> > >>> Le 04/09/2015 15:36, Raul Kripalani a écrit : >> > >>> >> > >>>> Quite frankly, SF would be my last resort. But the Apache Extras >> > >>>> repositories are governed by the ASF and the consensus seems to >> point >> > to >> > >>>> SF >> > >>>> rather than Github (which would have been my personal preference) >> or >> > >>>> Bitbucket. >> > >>>> >> > >>>> Regards, >> > >>>> >> > >>>> *Raúl Kripalani* >> > >>>> Apache Camel PMC Member & Committer | Enterprise Architect, Open >> > Source >> > >>>> Integration specialist >> > >>>> http://about.me/raulkripalani | >> > >> http://www.linkedin.com/in/raulkripalani >> > >>>> http://blog.raulkr.net | twitter: @raulvk >> > >>>> >> > >>>> On Fri, Sep 4, 2015 at 2:22 PM, Victor NOËL < >> victor.n...@linagora.com >> > > >> > >>>> wrote: >> > >>>> >> > >>>> I arrive a bit late, but are we sure sourceforge is a good >> solution? >> > >>>>> >> > >>>>> After all the fuss about their terrible behaviour by implanting >> > adware >> > >>>>> and >> > >>>>> other spyware in installers available to download there. >> > >>>>> It became known with the big complain of the Gimp project (that >> > wasn't >> > >>>>> even fixed by SourceForge…). >> > >>>>> >> > >>>>> See >> > >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> > >> >> > >> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/11/08/gimp_dumps_sourceforge_over_dodgy_ads_and_installer/ >> > >>>>> for details. >> > >>>>> >> > >>>>> Victor >> > >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> > >>>>> Le 04/09/2015 13:29, Pontus Ullgren a écrit : >> > >>>>> >> > >>>>> Do we not already have volunteers in the current set of >> contributors >> > >> for >> > >>>>>> the project ? >> > >>>>>> I for one is willing in continue maintaining the project once it >> has >> > >>>>>> been >> > >>>>>> moved (where ever it is moved). >> > >>>>>> >> > >>>>>> I think the question right now is the progress of the SF >> migration. >> > >>>>>> >> > >>>>>> // Pontus >> > >>>>>> >> > >>>>>> On Fri, 4 Sep 2015 at 09:18 Henryk Konsek <hekon...@gmail.com> >> > wrote: >> > >>>>>> >> > >>>>>> Hi, >> > >>>>>> >> > >>>>>>> As far as I know the Apache Extras projects are being moved to >> > the... >> > >>>>>>> SourceForge. So we need to find a volunteer willing to maintain >> the >> > >>>>>>> project >> > >>>>>>> after SourceForge migration. >> > >>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>> Cheers! >> > >>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>> czw., 3.09.2015 o 20:38 użytkownik Pontus Ullgren < >> > ullg...@gmail.com >> > >>> >> > >>>>>>> napisał: >> > >>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>> Have not seen any other updates on the comdev mailing list no. >> > >>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>> Perhaps we should reach out to Daniel Gruno (that seems to be >> in >> > >>>>>>>> charge >> > >>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>> of >> > >>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>> the move) to get a status update for camel-extra. >> > >>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>> // Pontus >> > >>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>> On Wed, 2 Sep 2015 at 23:57 Raul Kripalani <r...@evosent.com> >> > >> wrote: >> > >>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>> Hey guys, >> > >>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>> Do we have an update on the ASF front about the Apache Extras >> > >>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>> migration? >> > >>>>>>>> Users are asking for new releases of camel-extras components... >> > >>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>> I quickly went through the ComDev thread but found no >> conclusion. >> > >>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>> Maybe I >> > >>>>>>>> overlooked an email in that thread. Things tend to get very >> chatty >> > >>>>>>>> over >> > >>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>> there and there's no clearly marked conclusion email. >> > >>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>> Regards, >> > >>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>> *Raúl Kripalani* >> > >>>>>>>>> Apache Camel PMC Member & Committer | Enterprise Architect, >> Open >> > >>>>>>>>> Source >> > >>>>>>>>> Integration specialist >> > >>>>>>>>> http://about.me/raulkripalani | >> > >>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>> http://www.linkedin.com/in/raulkripalani >> > >>>>>>>> http://blog.raulkr.net | twitter: @raulvk >> > >>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>> On Fri, Aug 21, 2015 at 8:56 AM, Pontus Ullgren < >> > ullg...@gmail.com >> > >>> >> > >>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>> wrote: >> > >>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>> From this thread[1] it seems that Daniel Gruno is the one in >> > >> charge >> > >>>>>>>>> for >> > >>>>>>>>> the move. >> > >>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>> However I fail to find any indication on the progress or >> > roadmap. >> > >>>>>>>>>> Using Github as a backup plan does NOT[2] seem to be a >> option in >> > >> the >> > >>>>>>>>>> opinion of the community-dev decision. >> > >>>>>>>>>> Anyway perhaps we should move this discussion to the >> camel-dev >> > >>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>> mailinglist. >> > >>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>> [1] >> > >>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>> >> > >> >> > >> https://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/community-dev//201507.mbox/%3C559EC097.7000707%40apache.org%3E >> > >>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>> [2] >> > >>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>> >> > >> >> > >> https://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/community-dev//201507.mbox/%3cby2pr03mb490b6943e12f5d925203a2e99...@by2pr03mb490.namprd03.prod.outlook.com%3E >> > >>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>> // Pontus >> > >>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>> On Fri, 21 Aug 2015 at 07:17 Christoph Emmersberger < >> > >>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>> cemme...@gmail.com> >> > >>>>>>>>> wrote: >> > >>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>> Is there any date when this move is expected? We have still >> the >> > >>>>>>>>>> backup >> > >>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>> plan >> > >>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>> with Github in place, ... >> > >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Aug 20, 2015 at 6:54 AM, Pontus Ullgren < >> > >> ullg...@gmail.com >> > >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >> > >>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>> Diging through the community development list shows that it >> will >> > >>>>>>>>>>> be >> > >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>> moved >> > >>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>> to sourceforge along with the rest of the apache extra. >> > >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>> >> > >> >> > >> https://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/community-dev//201507.mbox/browser >> > >>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>> On Thu, 20 Aug 2015 14:12 Pontus Ullgren <ullg...@gmail.com> >> > >>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>> wrote: >> > >>>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>> Yes this has been discussed on the dev list[1][2] and the >> > >>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>> Apache >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>> community >> > >>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>> development mailing list [2]. >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Unfortuantly there does not seem to be any conclusion on >> this >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> discussion >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> yet. >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> // Pontus >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> [1] >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>> >> > >> >> > >> http://camel.465427.n5.nabble.com/Moving-camel-extra-to-github-tt5764066.html >> > >>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>> [2] >> > >>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>> >> > >> >> > >> http://camel.465427.n5.nabble.com/PROPOSAL-camel-extra-moves-forward-tt5765822.html >> > >>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>> [3] >> > >>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>> >> > >> >> http://www.apache.org/foundation/mailinglists.html#foundation-community >> > >>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>> On Wed, 19 Aug 2015 at 18:53 Tim Dudgeon < >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> tdudgeon...@gmail.com> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >> > >>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>> Now that the Google code site is about to switch to read only >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> ( >> https://code.google.com/a/apache-extras.org/p/camel-extra/) >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> wondered >> > >>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>> what is going to happen to the Camel Extras stuff? >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Tim >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Henryk Konsek >> > >>>>>>> http://about.me/hekonsek >> > >>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>> >> > >>>>>>> -- >> > >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> > >>>>> Vous utilisez la version libre et gratuite d'OBM, développée et >> > >> supportée >> > >>>>> par Linagora. >> > >>>>> Contribuez à la R&D du produit en souscrivant à une offre >> entreprise. >> > >>>>> http://pro.obm.org/ - http://www.linagora.com >> > >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> > >>> -- >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> Vous utilisez la version libre et gratuite d'OBM, développée et >> > supportée >> > >>> par Linagora. >> > >>> Contribuez à la R&D du produit en souscrivant à une offre >> entreprise. >> > >>> http://pro.obm.org/ - http://www.linagora.com >> > >>> >> > >> >> > >> > >> >
