Yes, camel-extra copied to github quite some time ago. However after that there was a period of uncertainty during which more commits and even releases where made from the Google code repo up until the point where google shutdown there service.
As time has gone by it seems that there is a risk that the code bases has diverge. Is there anybody already looking into this? If not I would be happy to try to make sure that the latest code from Google code is synced to the github.com repositories. Regarding SF from the latest ComDev discussions it turns out that, at least to my interpretation, it is up to each PMC to decide where and what they want to do with their extras project. Nothing will be automatically moved by apache infra. Best regards Pontus On Sat, 31 Oct 2015, 14:42 David Karlsen <davidkarl...@gmail.com> wrote: > https://github.com/camel-extra/camel-extra > > 2015-10-31 14:01 GMT+01:00 Krzysztof Sobkowiak <krzys.sobkow...@gmail.com > >: > > Hi JB > > > > I have seen the discussion that Camel Extras is going to move to Github. > I thought it's done already. Have you already final descision about Camel > Extras? I have seen discussion on ComDev about moving to SF but the > projects will be not forced to move together to SF. As i have seen Camel > prefers Github. I'm looking for > > instructions how to migrate the svn repo to git and I thought Camel has > already finished this process. > > > > Kindly regards > > Krzysztof > > > > On 31.10.2015 13:43, Jean-Baptiste Onofré wrote: > >> Hi Krysztof, > >> > >> camel-extras are not on github right. I've done some cleanups and > upgrades. > >> > >> Regards > >> JB > >> > >> On 10/29/2015 08:15 PM, Krzysztof Sobkowiak wrote: > >>> Hi > >>> > >>> Have you already performed the migration to Github? Have you done it > alone? I assume Infra doesn't support this process? > >>> > >>> Regards > >>> Krzysztof > >>> > >>> On 17.09.2015 21:00, Pontus Ullgren wrote: > >>>> I believe changing the package name would be a real problem for users > of > >>>> the library. > >>>> > >>>> Not sure why we can not continue to use that package name since > according > >>>> to the answers Raul got on the com-dev mailinglist [1] it is up to > each > >>>> projects PMC to decide how there extras project should be handled. > >>>> So if the Camel PMC decided that the Camel Extras source code should > be > >>>> hosted on github I do not see any problem to keep the package name as > is. > >>>> > >>>> [1] > >>>> > http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/community-dev/201509.mbox/%3ccadmm+kcy9c6rgodshexgsrduu7jur06jwcs9yp-hc8mapm6...@mail.gmail.com%3E > >>>> // Pontus > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> On Thu, 17 Sep 2015 at 13:57 Christian Müller < > christian.muel...@gmail.com> > >>>> wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> I'm also not happy with the support/guidance from dev@community > regarding > >>>>> this topic and +1 to move to Github now. I'm not convinced from SF. > >>>>> > >>>>> Before we are releasing our first release there, please check with > the > >>>>> Apache trademarks first, whether you can still use the name "Camel > Extra" > >>>>> or not. The same for the package name (it has apache and camel in > it), > >>>>> because this project doesn't belong to Apache Extra anymore in the > future, > >>>>> in my opinion. > >>>>> > >>>>> Best, > >>>>> Christian > >>>>> > >>>>> Am 17.09.2015 10:43 schrieb "Raul Kripalani" <r...@evosent.com>: > >>>>>> Agree. From my point of view, if the Camel extras community feels > >>>>>> comfortable with Github, then go for it. It seems like the joint > Apache > >>>>>> Extras effort has somewhat disintegrated anyway. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> We did our part: having a discussion there and sharing our concerns > at > >>>>>> dev@community. So I'm happy with how we dealt with this issue. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Let us know when it's done so we can update the links on the Apache > Camel > >>>>>> website. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Raúl. > >>>>>> On 17 Sep 2015 07:50, "Pontus Ullgren" <ullg...@gmail.com> wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> Hello again, > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> So I tried to reach out to com-dev beginning this month[1] and it > seems > >>>>> to > >>>>>>> be a dead end. > >>>>>>> Some answers[2] even suggest that it is up to the PMCs. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> So in line of the two previous votes[3] [4] I think we should go > ahead > >>>>> and > >>>>>>> continue the move to github. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Best regards > >>>>>>> // Pontus > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> [1] > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>> > http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/community-dev/201509.mbox/%3CCABe1WL-mcFvPUmUwjLXmgLUOSSQUrhT5z7Adj2WPVS8NwSQnuA%40mail.gmail.com%3E > >>>>>>> [2] > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>> > http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/community-dev/201509.mbox/%3ccadmm+kcy9c6rgodshexgsrduu7jur06jwcs9yp-hc8mapm6...@mail.gmail.com%3E > >>>>>>> [3] > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>> > http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/camel-dev/201504.mbox/%3C1391078472.16070484.1428686018450.JavaMail.zimbra%40redhat.com%3E > >>>>>>> [4] > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>> > http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/camel-dev/201504.mbox/%3C301126299.246793.1429101018000.JavaMail.zimbra%40redhat.com%3E > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> On Fri, 4 Sep 2015 at 19:54 Pontus Ullgren <ullg...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> While I personally think that is github is superior to what SF > offers > >>>>>>>> (and that bitbucket is superior to github) for camel-extra I don't > >>>>> think > >>>>>>>> the choice of hosting company is that big a deal. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Camel-Extra currently uses > >>>>>>>> * Mailing list provided by nabble ( > >>>>>>>> http://camel-extra.1091541.n5.nabble.com/) > >>>>>>>> * Jenkins provided by cloudbees ( > >>>>> https://camel-extra.ci.cloudbees.com/ > >>>>> ) > >>>>>>>> * SonarQube provided by SonarQube ( > >>>>>>>> http://nemo.sonarqube.org/dashboard/index/564228) > >>>>>>>> * Jira for issues provided by Atlassian ( > >>>>>>>> https://camel-extra.atlassian.net/browse/CAMEX) > >>>>>>>> * End user component documentations are hosted on the main camel > >>>>> project > >>>>>>>> wiki > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> So even back when we where on google code the only thing that it > was > >>>>> used > >>>>>>>> for was to > >>>>>>>> provide a wiki for some project specific documentation such as > >>>>> release > >>>>>>>> notes and most important > >>>>>>>> the GIT repo. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> So as long as the service provider provides git, a simple way of > >>>>> hosting > >>>>>>>> some documentation and > >>>>>>>> has a good reputation of keeping a good uptime on the service in > my > >>>>>>>> opinion it is not that big a deal > >>>>>>>> where or what is hosting it. The important thing is that we get > this > >>>>> up > >>>>>>>> read-write ASAP. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Just my $0.02 > >>>>>>>> // Pontus > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> On Fri, 4 Sep 2015 at 17:59 Raul Kripalani <r...@evosent.com> > wrote: > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Hi Rob, > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> I think camel-extras belongs to the Apache Extras [1] umbrella... > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> That said, I'm not quite sure what's the point of grouping all > >>>>> "extras" > >>>>>>>>> from all projects under a common ASF umbrella – I'm assuming it's > >>>>> for > >>>>>>> ASF > >>>>>>>>> organisational reasons. It definitely doesn't serve a technical > >>>>> reason > >>>>>>> nor > >>>>>>>>> an administrative one: (a) each Extras project is more closely > >>>>> related > >>>>>>> to > >>>>>>>>> the parent than to all other Extras project in ASF and (b) the > roles > >>>>> in > >>>>>>>>> the > >>>>>>>>> camel-extras "organisation" do show some correlation with the > roles > >>>>> at > >>>>>>>>> Apache Camel, but they are not necessarily tied together, i.e. > >>>>> there's > >>>>>>> no > >>>>>>>>> requirement that a committer in camel-extras has to be a > committer > >>>>> in > >>>>>>>>> Apache Camel, right? > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> [1] https://community.apache.org/apache-extras/faq.html > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Regards, > >>>>>>>>> Raúl. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> On Fri, Sep 4, 2015 at 3:59 PM, Rob Davies <rajdav...@gmail.com> > >>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>> The way I read it is comdev are doing a mass migration to SF - > its > >>>>>>>>>> understandable they wouldn’t want multiple targets - so to pick > >>>>> one > >>>>>>>>>> destination for the code move makes sense. However its not clear > >>>>> that > >>>>>>> we > >>>>>>>>>> have to keep camel-extra at SF - or why we couldn’t just move it > >>>>> to > >>>>>>>>> GitHub > >>>>>>>>>> ourselves ? > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> On 4 Sep 2015, at 15:54, Pontus Ullgren <ullg...@gmail.com> > >>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>> Victor and David: You are welcome to join the com-dev mailing > >>>>> list > >>>>>>> and > >>>>>>>>>>> enlighten them. > >>>>>>>>>>> Here is a link the latest answer on that question :-) > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> > https://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/community-dev/201507.mbox/%3CBY2PR03MB490B6943E12F5D925203A2E99900%40BY2PR03MB490.namprd03.prod.outlook.com%3E > >>>>>>>>>>> // Pontus > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 4 Sep 2015 at 16:01 David Karlsen < > >>>>> davidkarl...@gmail.com > >>>>>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>> Why not github? > >>>>>>>>>>>> 4. sep. 2015 3:54 p.m. skrev "Victor NOËL" < > >>>>>>> victor.n...@linagora.com > >>>>>>>>>> : > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Are they even aware of the problem with sourceforge? > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Maybe someone that is known there (such as a member of an > >>>>> Apache > >>>>>>>>>> Project > >>>>>>>>>>>>> ;) could tell them before they take the wrong decision? > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> It's even worse than what I thought because after the Gimp > >>>>> people > >>>>>>>>> told > >>>>>>>>>> SF > >>>>>>>>>>>>> to stop doing their shady things, they actually insisted > >>>>> during > >>>>>>>>> 2015: > >>>>> > https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-developer-list/2015-May/msg00097.html > >>>>> > https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-developer-list/2015-May/msg00098.html > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Victor > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Le 04/09/2015 15:36, Raul Kripalani a écrit : > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Quite frankly, SF would be my last resort. But the Apache > >>>>> Extras > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> repositories are governed by the ASF and the consensus seems > >>>>> to > >>>>>>>>> point > >>>>>>>>>> to > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> SF > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> rather than Github (which would have been my personal > >>>>> preference) > >>>>>>>>> or > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bitbucket. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards, > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Raúl Kripalani* > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Apache Camel PMC Member & Committer | Enterprise Architect, > >>>>> Open > >>>>>>>>>> Source > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Integration specialist > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://about.me/raulkripalani | > >>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.linkedin.com/in/raulkripalani > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://blog.raulkr.net | twitter: @raulvk > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Sep 4, 2015 at 2:22 PM, Victor NOËL < > >>>>>>>>> victor.n...@linagora.com > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I arrive a bit late, but are we sure sourceforge is a good > >>>>>>>>> solution? > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> After all the fuss about their terrible behaviour by > >>>>> implanting > >>>>>>>>>> adware > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> other spyware in installers available to download there. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It became known with the big complain of the Gimp project > >>>>> (that > >>>>>>>>>> wasn't > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> even fixed by SourceForge…). > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> See > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> > http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/11/08/gimp_dumps_sourceforge_over_dodgy_ads_and_installer/ > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for details. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Victor > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Le 04/09/2015 13:29, Pontus Ullgren a écrit : > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Do we not already have volunteers in the current set of > >>>>>>>>> contributors > >>>>>>>>>>>> for > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the project ? > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I for one is willing in continue maintaining the project > >>>>> once > >>>>>>> it > >>>>>>>>> has > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> been > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> moved (where ever it is moved). > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think the question right now is the progress of the SF > >>>>>>>>> migration. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> // Pontus > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 4 Sep 2015 at 09:18 Henryk Konsek < > >>>>> hekon...@gmail.com> > >>>>>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi, > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> As far as I know the Apache Extras projects are being > >>>>> moved to > >>>>>>>>>> the... > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> SourceForge. So we need to find a volunteer willing to > >>>>>>> maintain > >>>>>>>>> the > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> project > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> after SourceForge migration. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers! > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> czw., 3.09.2015 o 20:38 użytkownik Pontus Ullgren < > >>>>>>>>>> ullg...@gmail.com > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> napisał: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Have not seen any other updates on the comdev mailing > list > >>>>> no. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Perhaps we should reach out to Daniel Gruno (that seems > >>>>> to be > >>>>>>>>> in > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> charge > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the move) to get a status update for camel-extra. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> // Pontus > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 2 Sep 2015 at 23:57 Raul Kripalani < > >>>>> r...@evosent.com > >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hey guys, > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Do we have an update on the ASF front about the Apache > >>>>>>> Extras > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> migration? > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Users are asking for new releases of camel-extras > >>>>>>> components... > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I quickly went through the ComDev thread but found no > >>>>>>>>> conclusion. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Maybe I > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> overlooked an email in that thread. Things tend to get > >>>>> very > >>>>>>>>> chatty > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> over > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> there and there's no clearly marked conclusion email. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards, > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Raúl Kripalani* > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Apache Camel PMC Member & Committer | Enterprise > >>>>> Architect, > >>>>>>>>> Open > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Source > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Integration specialist > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://about.me/raulkripalani | > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.linkedin.com/in/raulkripalani > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://blog.raulkr.net | twitter: @raulvk > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Aug 21, 2015 at 8:56 AM, Pontus Ullgren < > >>>>>>>>>> ullg...@gmail.com > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From this thread[1] it seems that Daniel Gruno is the > >>>>> one > >>>>>>> in > >>>>>>>>>>>> charge > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the move. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> However I fail to find any indication on the progress > >>>>> or > >>>>>>>>>> roadmap. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Using Github as a backup plan does NOT[2] seem to be a > >>>>>>>>> option in > >>>>>>>>>>>> the > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> opinion of the community-dev decision. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Anyway perhaps we should move this discussion to the > >>>>>>>>> camel-dev > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mailinglist. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [1] > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> > https://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/community-dev//201507.mbox/%3C559EC097.7000707%40apache.org%3E > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [2] > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> > https://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/community-dev//201507.mbox/%3cby2pr03mb490b6943e12f5d925203a2e99...@by2pr03mb490.namprd03.prod.outlook.com%3E > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> // Pontus > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 21 Aug 2015 at 07:17 Christoph Emmersberger < > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cemme...@gmail.com> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Is there any date when this move is expected? We have > >>>>> still > >>>>>>>>> the > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> backup > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> plan > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with Github in place, ... > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Aug 20, 2015 at 6:54 AM, Pontus Ullgren < > >>>>>>>>>>>> ullg...@gmail.com > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Diging through the community development list shows > >>>>> that it > >>>>>>>>> will > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> moved > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to sourceforge along with the rest of the apache extra. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> > https://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/community-dev//201507.mbox/browser > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 20 Aug 2015 14:12 Pontus Ullgren < > >>>>> ullg...@gmail.com > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes this has been discussed on the dev list[1][2] and > >>>>> the > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Apache > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> community > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> development mailing list [2]. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Unfortuantly there does not seem to be any > >>>>> conclusion on > >>>>>>>>> this > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> discussion > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> yet. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> // Pontus > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [1] > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> > http://camel.465427.n5.nabble.com/Moving-camel-extra-to-github-tt5764066.html > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [2] > >>>>> > http://camel.465427.n5.nabble.com/PROPOSAL-camel-extra-moves-forward-tt5765822.html > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [3] > >>>>> > http://www.apache.org/foundation/mailinglists.html#foundation-community > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 19 Aug 2015 at 18:53 Tim Dudgeon < > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tdudgeon...@gmail.com> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Now that the Google code site is about to switch to > read > >>>>>>> only > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ( > >>>>>>>>> https://code.google.com/a/apache-extras.org/p/camel-extra/) > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wondered > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> what is going to happen to the Camel Extras stuff? > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tim > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Henryk Konsek > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://about.me/hekonsek > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Vous utilisez la version libre et gratuite d'OBM, > développée > >>>>> et > >>>>>>>>>>>> supportée > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> par Linagora. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Contribuez à la R&D du produit en souscrivant à une offre > >>>>>>>>> entreprise. > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://pro.obm.org/ - http://www.linagora.com > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> -- > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Vous utilisez la version libre et gratuite d'OBM, développée > >>>>> et > >>>>>>>>>> supportée > >>>>>>>>>>>>> par Linagora. > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Contribuez à la R&D du produit en souscrivant à une offre > >>>>>>>>> entreprise. > >>>>>>>>>>>>> http://pro.obm.org/ - http://www.linagora.com > >>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>> > >> > > > > -- > > Krzysztof Sobkowiak > > > > JEE & OSS Architect, Integration Architect > > Apache Software Foundation Member (http://apache.org/) > > Apache ServiceMix Committer & PMC Member (http://servicemix.apache.org/) > > Senior Solution Architect @ Capgemini SSC ( > http://www.capgeminisoftware.pl/) > > > > > > 33rd Degree 4charity (http://2015.33degree.org/) > > > > -- > -- > David J. 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