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2015-10-31 14:01 GMT+01:00 Krzysztof Sobkowiak <krzys.sobkow...@gmail.com>: > Hi JB > > I have seen the discussion that Camel Extras is going to move to Github. I > thought it's done already. Have you already final descision about Camel > Extras? I have seen discussion on ComDev about moving to SF but the projects > will be not forced to move together to SF. As i have seen Camel prefers > Github. I'm looking for > instructions how to migrate the svn repo to git and I thought Camel has > already finished this process. > > Kindly regards > Krzysztof > > On 31.10.2015 13:43, Jean-Baptiste Onofré wrote: >> Hi Krysztof, >> >> camel-extras are not on github right. I've done some cleanups and upgrades. >> >> Regards >> JB >> >> On 10/29/2015 08:15 PM, Krzysztof Sobkowiak wrote: >>> Hi >>> >>> Have you already performed the migration to Github? Have you done it alone? >>> I assume Infra doesn't support this process? >>> >>> Regards >>> Krzysztof >>> >>> On 17.09.2015 21:00, Pontus Ullgren wrote: >>>> I believe changing the package name would be a real problem for users of >>>> the library. >>>> >>>> Not sure why we can not continue to use that package name since according >>>> to the answers Raul got on the com-dev mailinglist [1] it is up to each >>>> projects PMC to decide how there extras project should be handled. >>>> So if the Camel PMC decided that the Camel Extras source code should be >>>> hosted on github I do not see any problem to keep the package name as is. >>>> >>>> [1] >>>> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/community-dev/201509.mbox/%3ccadmm+kcy9c6rgodshexgsrduu7jur06jwcs9yp-hc8mapm6...@mail.gmail.com%3E >>>> // Pontus >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Thu, 17 Sep 2015 at 13:57 Christian Müller <christian.muel...@gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> I'm also not happy with the support/guidance from dev@community regarding >>>>> this topic and +1 to move to Github now. I'm not convinced from SF. >>>>> >>>>> Before we are releasing our first release there, please check with the >>>>> Apache trademarks first, whether you can still use the name "Camel Extra" >>>>> or not. The same for the package name (it has apache and camel in it), >>>>> because this project doesn't belong to Apache Extra anymore in the future, >>>>> in my opinion. >>>>> >>>>> Best, >>>>> Christian >>>>> >>>>> Am 17.09.2015 10:43 schrieb "Raul Kripalani" <r...@evosent.com>: >>>>>> Agree. From my point of view, if the Camel extras community feels >>>>>> comfortable with Github, then go for it. It seems like the joint Apache >>>>>> Extras effort has somewhat disintegrated anyway. >>>>>> >>>>>> We did our part: having a discussion there and sharing our concerns at >>>>>> dev@community. So I'm happy with how we dealt with this issue. >>>>>> >>>>>> Let us know when it's done so we can update the links on the Apache Camel >>>>>> website. >>>>>> >>>>>> Raúl. >>>>>> On 17 Sep 2015 07:50, "Pontus Ullgren" <ullg...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hello again, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> So I tried to reach out to com-dev beginning this month[1] and it seems >>>>> to >>>>>>> be a dead end. >>>>>>> Some answers[2] even suggest that it is up to the PMCs. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> So in line of the two previous votes[3] [4] I think we should go ahead >>>>> and >>>>>>> continue the move to github. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Best regards >>>>>>> // Pontus >>>>>>> >>>>>>> [1] >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/community-dev/201509.mbox/%3CCABe1WL-mcFvPUmUwjLXmgLUOSSQUrhT5z7Adj2WPVS8NwSQnuA%40mail.gmail.com%3E >>>>>>> [2] >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/community-dev/201509.mbox/%3ccadmm+kcy9c6rgodshexgsrduu7jur06jwcs9yp-hc8mapm6...@mail.gmail.com%3E >>>>>>> [3] >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/camel-dev/201504.mbox/%3C1391078472.16070484.1428686018450.JavaMail.zimbra%40redhat.com%3E >>>>>>> [4] >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/camel-dev/201504.mbox/%3C301126299.246793.1429101018000.JavaMail.zimbra%40redhat.com%3E >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Fri, 4 Sep 2015 at 19:54 Pontus Ullgren <ullg...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> While I personally think that is github is superior to what SF offers >>>>>>>> (and that bitbucket is superior to github) for camel-extra I don't >>>>> think >>>>>>>> the choice of hosting company is that big a deal. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Camel-Extra currently uses >>>>>>>> * Mailing list provided by nabble ( >>>>>>>> http://camel-extra.1091541.n5.nabble.com/) >>>>>>>> * Jenkins provided by cloudbees ( >>>>> https://camel-extra.ci.cloudbees.com/ >>>>> ) >>>>>>>> * SonarQube provided by SonarQube ( >>>>>>>> http://nemo.sonarqube.org/dashboard/index/564228) >>>>>>>> * Jira for issues provided by Atlassian ( >>>>>>>> https://camel-extra.atlassian.net/browse/CAMEX) >>>>>>>> * End user component documentations are hosted on the main camel >>>>> project >>>>>>>> wiki >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> So even back when we where on google code the only thing that it was >>>>> used >>>>>>>> for was to >>>>>>>> provide a wiki for some project specific documentation such as >>>>> release >>>>>>>> notes and most important >>>>>>>> the GIT repo. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> So as long as the service provider provides git, a simple way of >>>>> hosting >>>>>>>> some documentation and >>>>>>>> has a good reputation of keeping a good uptime on the service in my >>>>>>>> opinion it is not that big a deal >>>>>>>> where or what is hosting it. The important thing is that we get this >>>>> up >>>>>>>> read-write ASAP. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Just my $0.02 >>>>>>>> // Pontus >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Fri, 4 Sep 2015 at 17:59 Raul Kripalani <r...@evosent.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Hi Rob, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I think camel-extras belongs to the Apache Extras [1] umbrella... >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> That said, I'm not quite sure what's the point of grouping all >>>>> "extras" >>>>>>>>> from all projects under a common ASF umbrella – I'm assuming it's >>>>> for >>>>>>> ASF >>>>>>>>> organisational reasons. It definitely doesn't serve a technical >>>>> reason >>>>>>> nor >>>>>>>>> an administrative one: (a) each Extras project is more closely >>>>> related >>>>>>> to >>>>>>>>> the parent than to all other Extras project in ASF and (b) the roles >>>>> in >>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>> camel-extras "organisation" do show some correlation with the roles >>>>> at >>>>>>>>> Apache Camel, but they are not necessarily tied together, i.e. >>>>> there's >>>>>>> no >>>>>>>>> requirement that a committer in camel-extras has to be a committer >>>>> in >>>>>>>>> Apache Camel, right? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> [1] https://community.apache.org/apache-extras/faq.html >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>>>> Raúl. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Fri, Sep 4, 2015 at 3:59 PM, Rob Davies <rajdav...@gmail.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> The way I read it is comdev are doing a mass migration to SF - its >>>>>>>>>> understandable they wouldn’t want multiple targets - so to pick >>>>> one >>>>>>>>>> destination for the code move makes sense. However its not clear >>>>> that >>>>>>> we >>>>>>>>>> have to keep camel-extra at SF - or why we couldn’t just move it >>>>> to >>>>>>>>> GitHub >>>>>>>>>> ourselves ? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On 4 Sep 2015, at 15:54, Pontus Ullgren <ullg...@gmail.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> Victor and David: You are welcome to join the com-dev mailing >>>>> list >>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>>>> enlighten them. >>>>>>>>>>> Here is a link the latest answer on that question :-) >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> https://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/community-dev/201507.mbox/%3CBY2PR03MB490B6943E12F5D925203A2E99900%40BY2PR03MB490.namprd03.prod.outlook.com%3E >>>>>>>>>>> // Pontus >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 4 Sep 2015 at 16:01 David Karlsen < >>>>> davidkarl...@gmail.com >>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> Why not github? >>>>>>>>>>>> 4. sep. 2015 3:54 p.m. skrev "Victor NOËL" < >>>>>>> victor.n...@linagora.com >>>>>>>>>> : >>>>>>>>>>>>> Are they even aware of the problem with sourceforge? >>>>>>>>>>>>> Maybe someone that is known there (such as a member of an >>>>> Apache >>>>>>>>>> Project >>>>>>>>>>>>> ;) could tell them before they take the wrong decision? >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> It's even worse than what I thought because after the Gimp >>>>> people >>>>>>>>> told >>>>>>>>>> SF >>>>>>>>>>>>> to stop doing their shady things, they actually insisted >>>>> during >>>>>>>>> 2015: >>>>> https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-developer-list/2015-May/msg00097.html >>>>> https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-developer-list/2015-May/msg00098.html >>>>>>>>>>>>> Victor >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Le 04/09/2015 15:36, Raul Kripalani a écrit : >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Quite frankly, SF would be my last resort. But the Apache >>>>> Extras >>>>>>>>>>>>>> repositories are governed by the ASF and the consensus seems >>>>> to >>>>>>>>> point >>>>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>>>>>>>> SF >>>>>>>>>>>>>> rather than Github (which would have been my personal >>>>> preference) >>>>>>>>> or >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bitbucket. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Raúl Kripalani* >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Apache Camel PMC Member & Committer | Enterprise Architect, >>>>> Open >>>>>>>>>> Source >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Integration specialist >>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://about.me/raulkripalani | >>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.linkedin.com/in/raulkripalani >>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://blog.raulkr.net | twitter: @raulvk >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Sep 4, 2015 at 2:22 PM, Victor NOËL < >>>>>>>>> victor.n...@linagora.com >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I arrive a bit late, but are we sure sourceforge is a good >>>>>>>>> solution? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> After all the fuss about their terrible behaviour by >>>>> implanting >>>>>>>>>> adware >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> other spyware in installers available to download there. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It became known with the big complain of the Gimp project >>>>> (that >>>>>>>>>> wasn't >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> even fixed by SourceForge…). >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> See >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/11/08/gimp_dumps_sourceforge_over_dodgy_ads_and_installer/ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for details. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Victor >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Le 04/09/2015 13:29, Pontus Ullgren a écrit : >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Do we not already have volunteers in the current set of >>>>>>>>> contributors >>>>>>>>>>>> for >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the project ? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I for one is willing in continue maintaining the project >>>>> once >>>>>>> it >>>>>>>>> has >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> been >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> moved (where ever it is moved). >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think the question right now is the progress of the SF >>>>>>>>> migration. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> // Pontus >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 4 Sep 2015 at 09:18 Henryk Konsek < >>>>> hekon...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> As far as I know the Apache Extras projects are being >>>>> moved to >>>>>>>>>> the... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> SourceForge. So we need to find a volunteer willing to >>>>>>> maintain >>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> project >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> after SourceForge migration. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> czw., 3.09.2015 o 20:38 użytkownik Pontus Ullgren < >>>>>>>>>> ullg...@gmail.com >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> napisał: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Have not seen any other updates on the comdev mailing list >>>>> no. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Perhaps we should reach out to Daniel Gruno (that seems >>>>> to be >>>>>>>>> in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> charge >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the move) to get a status update for camel-extra. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> // Pontus >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 2 Sep 2015 at 23:57 Raul Kripalani < >>>>> r...@evosent.com >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hey guys, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Do we have an update on the ASF front about the Apache >>>>>>> Extras >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> migration? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Users are asking for new releases of camel-extras >>>>>>> components... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I quickly went through the ComDev thread but found no >>>>>>>>> conclusion. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Maybe I >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> overlooked an email in that thread. Things tend to get >>>>> very >>>>>>>>> chatty >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> over >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> there and there's no clearly marked conclusion email. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Raúl Kripalani* >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Apache Camel PMC Member & Committer | Enterprise >>>>> Architect, >>>>>>>>> Open >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Source >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Integration specialist >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://about.me/raulkripalani | >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.linkedin.com/in/raulkripalani >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://blog.raulkr.net | twitter: @raulvk >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Aug 21, 2015 at 8:56 AM, Pontus Ullgren < >>>>>>>>>> ullg...@gmail.com >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From this thread[1] it seems that Daniel Gruno is the >>>>> one >>>>>>> in >>>>>>>>>>>> charge >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the move. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> However I fail to find any indication on the progress >>>>> or >>>>>>>>>> roadmap. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Using Github as a backup plan does NOT[2] seem to be a >>>>>>>>> option in >>>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> opinion of the community-dev decision. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Anyway perhaps we should move this discussion to the >>>>>>>>> camel-dev >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mailinglist. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [1] >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> https://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/community-dev//201507.mbox/%3C559EC097.7000707%40apache.org%3E >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [2] >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> https://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/community-dev//201507.mbox/%3cby2pr03mb490b6943e12f5d925203a2e99...@by2pr03mb490.namprd03.prod.outlook.com%3E >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> // Pontus >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 21 Aug 2015 at 07:17 Christoph Emmersberger < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cemme...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Is there any date when this move is expected? We have >>>>> still >>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> backup >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> plan >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with Github in place, ... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Aug 20, 2015 at 6:54 AM, Pontus Ullgren < >>>>>>>>>>>> ullg...@gmail.com >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Diging through the community development list shows >>>>> that it >>>>>>>>> will >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> moved >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to sourceforge along with the rest of the apache extra. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> https://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/community-dev//201507.mbox/browser >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 20 Aug 2015 14:12 Pontus Ullgren < >>>>> ullg...@gmail.com >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes this has been discussed on the dev list[1][2] and >>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Apache >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> community >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> development mailing list [2]. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Unfortuantly there does not seem to be any >>>>> conclusion on >>>>>>>>> this >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> discussion >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> yet. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> // Pontus >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [1] >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> http://camel.465427.n5.nabble.com/Moving-camel-extra-to-github-tt5764066.html >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [2] >>>>> http://camel.465427.n5.nabble.com/PROPOSAL-camel-extra-moves-forward-tt5765822.html >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [3] >>>>> http://www.apache.org/foundation/mailinglists.html#foundation-community >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 19 Aug 2015 at 18:53 Tim Dudgeon < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tdudgeon...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Now that the Google code site is about to switch to read >>>>>>> only >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ( >>>>>>>>> https://code.google.com/a/apache-extras.org/p/camel-extra/) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wondered >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> what is going to happen to the Camel Extras stuff? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tim >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Henryk Konsek >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://about.me/hekonsek >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Vous utilisez la version libre et gratuite d'OBM, développée >>>>> et >>>>>>>>>>>> supportée >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> par Linagora. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Contribuez à la R&D du produit en souscrivant à une offre >>>>>>>>> entreprise. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://pro.obm.org/ - http://www.linagora.com >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Vous utilisez la version libre et gratuite d'OBM, développée >>>>> et >>>>>>>>>> supportée >>>>>>>>>>>>> par Linagora. >>>>>>>>>>>>> Contribuez à la R&D du produit en souscrivant à une offre >>>>>>>>> entreprise. >>>>>>>>>>>>> http://pro.obm.org/ - http://www.linagora.com >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>> >> > > -- > Krzysztof Sobkowiak > > JEE & OSS Architect, Integration Architect > Apache Software Foundation Member (http://apache.org/) > Apache ServiceMix Committer & PMC Member (http://servicemix.apache.org/) > Senior Solution Architect @ Capgemini SSC (http://www.capgeminisoftware.pl/) > > > 33rd Degree 4charity (http://2015.33degree.org/) -- -- David J. 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