On Wed, Mar 28, 2018 at 9:11 AM, Gregor Zurowski
<gre...@list.zurowski.org> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I can post it to the front page right after posting updates about our
> upcoming releases. Should be done by tomorrow.
>

Yeah sure this is fine.


> Thanks,
> Gregor
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 28, 2018, 8:28 AM Claus Ibsen <claus.ib...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi
>>
>> I think we should wait to post this on the front page, until after the
>> 2.19.5 and 2.20.3 releases, so it will be on top of those and stay on
>> top for a longer while.
>>
>> On Mon, Mar 26, 2018 at 11:12 AM, Claus Ibsen <claus.ib...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > Hi
>> >
>> > I have created a new draft to post on the Camel front page.
>> >
>> > Any comments and feedback?
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Update on the Apache Camel website and documentation
>> > ----------------------------------------------------
>> >
>> > The current Apache Camel website and documentation is currently
>> undergoing
>> > work to be rewamped and updated for a modern website.
>> >
>> > This work has been underway for a longer time. We kicked off the work by
>> > migrating the documentation of every Camel component from the wiki system
>> > to the source code as ascii doc files. This allowed us during the build
>> > of the Apache Camel project to automatic keep parts of the documentation
>> > up-to-date with the source code, such as when new options is added to
>> > components.
>> > We then moved on migrate all the data formats, languages, and the EIP
>> patterns.
>> >
>> > This has been substantional work, as if you were to print all the
>> > Camel documentation
>> > then it would be more than 3000 sheets of papers.
>> >
>> > At this point of time, we are about to draft up a new table of content
>> > (TOC) for the
>> > new Apache Camel documentation and user guide. With the new TOC we
>> > will then re-work
>> > all the user guide documentation to be updated and focus on modern
>> > developer with Camel.
>> > In doing so we will grab the good parts of the existing (older)
>> > documentation, and in
>> > places needed, we will rewrite the documentation.
>> >
>> > The new website and documentation has a new build system that is also
>> > worked. When this
>> > system is ready we will have a new staging URL where we will regularly
>> > publish the content,
>> > so users can follow the progress.
>> >
>> > Because the new documentation will be in the source code and in ascii
>> > doc format, then its
>> > easier for Camel users to contrbute and help - you can simply just
>> > submit patches as GitHub PRs.
>> >
>> > Have patience with us, as it may take a couple of months for us to be
>> > ready to publish the staging URL.
>> >
>> > We anticipate to have a new website and documentation ready after the
>> > summer break of 2018.
>> >
>> > On Tue, Mar 6, 2018 at 10:48 AM, Claus Ibsen <claus.ib...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >> Hi
>> >>
>> >> I think we should post a news on the Camel front page about the
>> >> situation with the current old website and docs vs the new website and
>> >> docs from the source.
>> >>
>> >> A rough plan for the new website and docs could be
>> >>
>> >> - finish migrating the EIP docs
>> >> - create new TOC for new documentation
>> >> - copy over the good parts of the old docs for the new TOC and
>> >> otherwise write new parts from scratch (will be ongoing through 2018)
>> >> - build a new modern front page
>> >> - use the new Camel logo
>> >> - publish this to a new staging url so anyone can follow the work
>> >>
>> >> A work plan could be that after the 2.21 release we will finish the
>> >> EIP migrations and get started on the TOC and gradually build up the
>> >> new documentation. At the same time folks work on the new website with
>> >> a new build system for publishing that, and get the tech stuff in
>> >> order.
>> >>
>> >> The new front page is likely where many people may have feedback/ideas
>> >> and it can take some time to get right - if there are more proposals
>> >> we could run a vote etc. Also we need new content for:
>> >> - What is Apache Camel
>> >> - How to get started etc
>> >>
>> >> eg content for onboarding new users and getting them to quickly
>> >> understand what Camel is. That information is needed on both the front
>> >> page and some beginner pages.
>> >>
>> >> As we are all busy with other duties at work / life / etc. then I dont
>> >> think we can do this quickly. And therefore I anticipate that we can
>> >> do
>> >>
>> >> - a new stating url with a prototype of the new website and docs ready
>> >> for summer 2018
>> >> - continued work on the TOC and docs until its ready to replace the old
>> site
>> >> - switch over to new website after summer 2018 when its ready (maybe
>> >> as part of Camel 2.23 release etc).
>> >>
>> >> For the news on the Camel front page, then I do think we should draft
>> >> up a text that we can present. The stuff I wrote above is a bit
>> >> "rough" so I think we need to come up with a new text for the Camel
>> >> front page.
>> >>
>> >> Anyone wanna help with that?
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Claus Ibsen
>> >> -----------------
>> >> http://davsclaus.com @davsclaus
>> >> Camel in Action 2: https://www.manning.com/ibsen2
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > Claus Ibsen
>> > -----------------
>> > http://davsclaus.com @davsclaus
>> > Camel in Action 2: https://www.manning.com/ibsen2
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Claus Ibsen
>> -----------------
>> http://davsclaus.com @davsclaus
>> Camel in Action 2: https://www.manning.com/ibsen2
>>



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