My guess is they don't know how to NOT set a TTL (perhaps with a default in
the schema), so they chose max value.  Someone else's problem by then.

On Thu, Jan 25, 2018 at 2:38 PM, Michael Kjellman <kjell...@apple.com>
wrote:

> why are people inserting data with a 15+ year TTL? sorta curious about the
> actual use case for that.
>
> > On Jan 25, 2018, at 12:36 PM, horschi <hors...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > The assertion was working fine until yesterday 03:14 UTC.
> >
> > The long term solution would be to work with a long instead of a int. The
> > serialized seems to be a variable-int already, so that should be fine
> > already.
> >
> > If you change the assertion to 15 years, then applications might fail, as
> > they might be setting a 15+ year ttl.
> >
> > regards,
> > Christian
> >
> > On Thu, Jan 25, 2018 at 9:19 PM, Paulo Motta <pauloricard...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Thanks for raising this. Agreed this is bad, when I filed
> >> CASSANDRA-14092 I thought a write would fail when localDeletionTime
> >> overflows (as it is with 2.1), but that doesn't seem to be the case on
> >> 3.0+
> >>
> >> I propose adding the assertion back so writes will fail, and reduce
> >> the max TTL to something like 15 years for the time being while we
> >> figure a long term solution.
> >>
> >> 2018-01-25 18:05 GMT-02:00 Jeremiah D Jordan <jeremiah.jor...@gmail.com
> >:
> >>> If you aren’t getting an error, then I agree, that is very bad.
> Looking
> >> at the 3.0 code it looks like the assertion checking for overflow was
> >> dropped somewhere along the way, I had only been looking into 2.1 where
> you
> >> get an assertion error that fails the query.
> >>>
> >>> -Jeremiah
> >>>
> >>>> On Jan 25, 2018, at 2:21 PM, Anuj Wadehra <anujw_2...@yahoo.co.in.
> INVALID>
> >> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Hi Jeremiah,
> >>>> Validation is on TTL value not on (system_time+ TTL). You can test it
> >> with below example. Insert is successful, overflow happens silently and
> >> data is lost:
> >>>> create table test(name text primary key,age int);
> >>>> insert into test(name,age) values('test_20yrs',30) USING TTL
> 630720000;
> >>>> select * from test where name='test_20yrs';
> >>>>
> >>>> name | age
> >>>> ------+-----
> >>>>
> >>>> (0 rows)
> >>>>
> >>>> insert into test(name,age) values('test_20yr_plus_1',30) USING TTL
> >> 630720001;InvalidRequest: Error from server: code=2200 [Invalid query]
> >> message="ttl is too large. requested (630720001) maximum (630720000)"
> >>>> ThanksAnuj
> >>>>   On Friday 26 January 2018, 12:11:03 AM IST, J. D. Jordan <
> >> jeremiah.jor...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Where is the dataloss?  Does the INSERT operation return successfully
> >> to the client in this case?  From reading the linked issues it sounds
> like
> >> you get an error client side.
> >>>>
> >>>> -Jeremiah
> >>>>
> >>>>> On Jan 25, 2018, at 1:24 PM, Anuj Wadehra <anujw_2...@yahoo.co.in.
> INVALID>
> >> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Hi,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> For all those people who use MAX TTL=20 years for inserting/updating
> >> data in production, https://issues.apache.org/
> jira/browse/CASSANDRA-14092
> >> can silently cause irrecoverable Data Loss. This seems like a certain
> TOP
> >> MOST BLOCKER to me. I think the category of the JIRA must be raised to
> >> BLOCKER from Major. Unfortunately, the JIRA is still "Unassigned" and no
> >> one seems to be actively working on it. Just like any other critical
> >> vulnerability, this vulnerability demands immediate attention from some
> >> very experienced folks to bring out an Urgent Fast Track Patch for all
> >> currently Supported Cassandra versions 2.1,2.2 and 3.x. As per my
> >> understanding of the JIRA comments, the changes may not be that trivial
> for
> >> older releases. So, community support on the patch is very much
> appreciated.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Thanks
> >>>>> Anuj
> >>>>
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