Sept is a pretty long ways off. I think the ideal case is we can announce 4.0 release at the summit. I'm not putting this as a "do or die" date, and I don't think we need to announce it or make promises. Sticking with "when it's ready" is the right approach, but we need a target, and this is imo a good one.
This date also gives us a pretty good runway. We could cut our first alphas in mid June / early July, betas in August and release in Sept. There's a ton of work going into testing 4.0 already. Landing CASSANDRA-15066 will put us in a pretty good spot. We've developed tooling at TLP that will make it a lot easier to spin up dev clusters in AWS as well as stress test them. I've written about this a few times in the past, and I'll have a few blog posts coming up that will help show this in more details. There's some other quality of life things we should try to hammer out before then. Updating our default JVM settings would be nice, for example. Improving documentation (the data modeling section in particular), fixing the dynamic snitch issues [1], and some improvements to virtual tables like exposing the sstable metadata [2], and exposing table statistics [3] come to mind. The dynamic snitch improvement will help performance in a big way, and the virtual tables will go a long way to helping with quality of life. I showed a few folks virtual tables at the Accelerate conference last week and the missing table statistics was a big shock. If we can get them in, it'll be a big help to operators. [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CASSANDRA-14459 [2] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CASSANDRA-14630 [3] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CASSANDRA-14572 On Mon, May 27, 2019 at 2:36 PM Nate McCall <zznat...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi Sumanth, > Thank you so much for taking the time to put this together. > > Cheers, > -Nate > > On Tue, May 28, 2019 at 3:27 AM Sumanth Pasupuleti < > sumanth.pasupuleti...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > I have taken an initial stab at documenting release types and exit > criteria > > in a google doc, to get us started, and to collaborate on. > > > > > https://docs.google.com/document/d/1bS6sr-HSrHFjZb0welife6Qx7u3ZDgRiAoENMLYlfz8/edit?usp=sharing > > > > Thanks, > > Sumanth > > > > On Thu, May 23, 2019 at 12:04 PM Dinesh Joshi <djo...@apache.org> wrote: > > > > > Sankalp, > > > > > > Great point. This is the page created for testing. > > > > > > > > > > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/CASSANDRA/4.0+Quality%3A+Components+and+Test+Plans > > > > > > I think we need to define the various release types and the exit > criteria > > > for each type of release. Anybody want to take a stab at this or start > a > > > thread to discuss it? > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > Dinesh > > > > > > > > > > On May 23, 2019, at 11:57 AM, sankalp kohli <kohlisank...@gmail.com> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > Is there a page where it is written what is expected from an > alpha, > > > > beta, rc and a 4.0 release? > > > > Also how are we coming up with Q4 2019 timeline. Is this for alpha, > > beta, > > > > rc or 4.0 release? > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > Sankalp > > > > > > > > On Thu, May 23, 2019 at 11:27 AM Attila Wind <attilaw@swf.technology > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > >> +1+1+1 I read a blog post was talking about last sept(?) to freeze > > > >> features and start extensive testing. Maybe its really time to hit > it! > > > :-) > > > >> > > > >> Attila Wind > > > >> > > > >> http://www.linkedin.com/in/attilaw > > > >> Mobile: +36 31 7811355 > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> On 2019. 05. 23. 19:30, ajs6f wrote: > > > >>> +1 in the fullest degree. A date that needs to be changed is still > > > >> enormously more attractive than no date at all. > > > >>> > > > >>> Adam Soroka > > > >>> > > > >>>> On May 23, 2019, at 12:01 PM, Sumanth Pasupuleti < > > > >> spasupul...@netflix.com.INVALID> wrote: > > > >>>> > > > >>>> Having at least a ballpark target on the website will definitely > > help. > > > >> +1 > > > >>>> on setting it to Q4 2019 for now. > > > >>>> > > > >>>> On Thu, May 23, 2019 at 8:52 AM Dinesh Joshi <djo...@apache.org> > > > wrote: > > > >>>> > > > >>>>> +1 on setting a date. > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> Dinesh > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>> On May 23, 2019, at 11:07 AM, Michael Shuler < > > > mich...@pbandjelly.org> > > > >>>>> wrote: > > > >>>>>> We've had 4.0 listed as TBD release date for a very long time. > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> Yesterday, Alexander Dejanovski got a "when's 4.0 going to > > release?" > > > >>>>> question after his repair talk and he suggested possibly Q4 2019. > > > This > > > >>>>> morning Nate McCall hinted at possibly being close by ApacheCon > Las > > > >> Vegas > > > >>>>> in September. These got me thinking.. > > > >>>>>> Think we can we shoot for having a 4.0 alpha/beta/rc ready to > > > >>>>> announce/release at ApacheCon? At that time, we'll have been > frozen > > > >> for 1 > > > >>>>> year, and I think we can. We'll GA release when it's ready, but I > > > >> think Q4 > > > >>>>> could be an realistic target. > > > >>>>>> With that said, I'd like to change "TBD" on the downloads page > to > > > >> "Est. > > > >>>>> Q4 2019". We can always push or pull the estimate, but I think > it's > > > >> time to > > > >>>>> have a goal line. This lines up with ApacheCon nicely for a > preview > > > >> release. > > > >>>>>> Any concerns or objections to editing the download page? Have > some > > > >> other > > > >>>>> goal timeframe in mind? > > > >>>>>> -- > > > >>>>>> Warm regards, > > > >>>>>> Michael > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > >>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@cassandra.apache.org > > > >>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@cassandra.apache.org > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > >>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@cassandra.apache.org > > > >>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@cassandra.apache.org > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@cassandra.apache.org > > > >>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@cassandra.apache.org > > > >>> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@cassandra.apache.org > > > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@cassandra.apache.org > > > > > > > > >
