Makes sense to me - I feel similar. But I needed to ask, because one of the core developers was a huge fan of Cayenne in the past ;-)
On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 4:29 PM, Andrus Adamchik <[email protected]> wrote: > I am of the opinion that "umbrella TLP's" that aggregate loosely related > subjects are a bad. The most visible such project at Apache is Jakarta, and > it is taking years to dissolve it, moving active projects to TLP's and > inactive - to the Attic. ASF doesn't have a limit on the number of TLPs and > the Board is actively encouraging each distinct community to orm its own. > > To me the main criteria for a subproject would be a significant overlap in > the committer/PMC base between the 2 projects. Otherwise we are just impeding > the community development IMO. > > Consider that DirectMemory becoming a Cayenne subproject would mean that > Cayenne PMC will need to vote on DirectMemory releases. This doesn't make > much sense with the current PMC composition (we have no people involved in > DirectMemory development on the current PMC). If we vote in DirectMemory > folks to the Cayenne PMC, and they will vote on DirectMemory releases, while > we'll vote on Cayenne releases, we still don't have a cohesive PMC, and > there's no reason why DirectMemory can't be a TLP in that later case anyways. > > Hope this makes sense. > > Andrus > > > On Sep 20, 2011, at 5:04 PM, Christian Grobmeier wrote: > >> On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 3:56 PM, Andrus Adamchik <[email protected]> >> wrote: >>> Looking at my reply, the first paragraph came out a bit brash. Didn't mean >>> it to sound that way :) >> >> no worries, i didn't get it wrong :-) >> >>> Certainly a great proposal, and looks like it has already generated quite >>> some interest in the Incubator. So good luck, and keep us posted. We are >>> definitely interested to try it out as a Cayenne cache provider. >> >> Will keep you posted. Anyway any other Cayenne committer is welcome >> to, either as dev, mentor whatever. >> >> Another question- DirectMemory is currently looking for a sponsor. One >> of the thing which has been discussed internally was if Cayenne would >> sponsor it. After incubation it would be expected that DM is an >> subproject of Cayenne. As the implementation is basically a general >> one, I have some feeling it would make a good TLD. On the other hand, >> it can be made a TLD later and could start as Cayenne-Subproject. This >> might have benefits for all sides. >> >> How do you (all) feel about this? >> >> Cheers >> Christian >> >> >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Andrus >>> >>> >>> On Sep 20, 2011, at 12:29 PM, Andrus Adamchik wrote: >>>> I can't mentor any more projects. I am mentoring Wave and also incoming >>>> OpenMeetings. >>>> >>>> The idea is great, and as long as it is not as invasive as Terracotta, >>>> we'll definitely be interested to try it out and give feedback. The >>>> usability of DirectMemory in Cayenne depends on >>>> >>>> * the API model they provide to the applications >>>> * whether we can build a cache adapter with groups support >>>> * on speed of serialization with LOCAL and SHARED cache. (I'd imagine it >>>> will be more appropriate for SHARED, as it stores DataRows with no >>>> relationships and detached from the context). >>>> >>>> Andrus >>>> >>>> On Sep 20, 2011, at 11:50 AM, Christian Grobmeier wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hello folks, >>>>> >>>>> a new proposal will arrive at the incubator the next few days: >>>>> http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/DirectMemoryProposal >>>>> >>>>> It is a cache implementation similar to OSCache. Now I know about the >>>>> discussion of the OSCache usage the past weeks and thought, this might >>>>> be a good chance for Cayenne to bring in own needs etc. >>>>> >>>>> I told the guys that Cayenne might benefit from this new lib. They >>>>> liked that idea very much, so it seems. >>>>> >>>>> Anyway, they asked me if some of you would like to step up to this >>>>> proposal, either as an initial committer or mentor. I think this is a >>>>> great opportunity! >>>>> >>>>> Please let me know so I can tell the people and sign up at the >>>>> proposal link above. Any questions, shout! :-) >>>>> >>>>> Cheers, >>>>> Christian >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> http://www.grobmeier.de >> > > -- http://www.grobmeier.de
