Saw your message on the board list. Whatever the Incubator docs might say, I think you are looking for Incubator PMC sponsorship with the goal to become a TLP.
Andrus On Sep 20, 2011, at 5:32 PM, Christian Grobmeier wrote: > Makes sense to me - I feel similar. But I needed to ask, because one > of the core developers was a huge fan of Cayenne in the past ;-) > > On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 4:29 PM, Andrus Adamchik <[email protected]> > wrote: >> I am of the opinion that "umbrella TLP's" that aggregate loosely related >> subjects are a bad. The most visible such project at Apache is Jakarta, and >> it is taking years to dissolve it, moving active projects to TLP's and >> inactive - to the Attic. ASF doesn't have a limit on the number of TLPs and >> the Board is actively encouraging each distinct community to orm its own. >> >> To me the main criteria for a subproject would be a significant overlap in >> the committer/PMC base between the 2 projects. Otherwise we are just >> impeding the community development IMO. >> >> Consider that DirectMemory becoming a Cayenne subproject would mean that >> Cayenne PMC will need to vote on DirectMemory releases. This doesn't make >> much sense with the current PMC composition (we have no people involved in >> DirectMemory development on the current PMC). If we vote in DirectMemory >> folks to the Cayenne PMC, and they will vote on DirectMemory releases, while >> we'll vote on Cayenne releases, we still don't have a cohesive PMC, and >> there's no reason why DirectMemory can't be a TLP in that later case anyways. >> >> Hope this makes sense. >> >> Andrus >> >> >> On Sep 20, 2011, at 5:04 PM, Christian Grobmeier wrote: >> >>> On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 3:56 PM, Andrus Adamchik <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>>> Looking at my reply, the first paragraph came out a bit brash. Didn't mean >>>> it to sound that way :) >>> >>> no worries, i didn't get it wrong :-) >>> >>>> Certainly a great proposal, and looks like it has already generated quite >>>> some interest in the Incubator. So good luck, and keep us posted. We are >>>> definitely interested to try it out as a Cayenne cache provider. >>> >>> Will keep you posted. Anyway any other Cayenne committer is welcome >>> to, either as dev, mentor whatever. >>> >>> Another question- DirectMemory is currently looking for a sponsor. One >>> of the thing which has been discussed internally was if Cayenne would >>> sponsor it. After incubation it would be expected that DM is an >>> subproject of Cayenne. As the implementation is basically a general >>> one, I have some feeling it would make a good TLD. On the other hand, >>> it can be made a TLD later and could start as Cayenne-Subproject. This >>> might have benefits for all sides. >>> >>> How do you (all) feel about this? >>> >>> Cheers >>> Christian >>> >>> >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> Andrus >>>> >>>> >>>> On Sep 20, 2011, at 12:29 PM, Andrus Adamchik wrote: >>>>> I can't mentor any more projects. I am mentoring Wave and also incoming >>>>> OpenMeetings. >>>>> >>>>> The idea is great, and as long as it is not as invasive as Terracotta, >>>>> we'll definitely be interested to try it out and give feedback. The >>>>> usability of DirectMemory in Cayenne depends on >>>>> >>>>> * the API model they provide to the applications >>>>> * whether we can build a cache adapter with groups support >>>>> * on speed of serialization with LOCAL and SHARED cache. (I'd imagine it >>>>> will be more appropriate for SHARED, as it stores DataRows with no >>>>> relationships and detached from the context). >>>>> >>>>> Andrus >>>>> >>>>> On Sep 20, 2011, at 11:50 AM, Christian Grobmeier wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hello folks, >>>>>> >>>>>> a new proposal will arrive at the incubator the next few days: >>>>>> http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/DirectMemoryProposal >>>>>> >>>>>> It is a cache implementation similar to OSCache. Now I know about the >>>>>> discussion of the OSCache usage the past weeks and thought, this might >>>>>> be a good chance for Cayenne to bring in own needs etc. >>>>>> >>>>>> I told the guys that Cayenne might benefit from this new lib. They >>>>>> liked that idea very much, so it seems. >>>>>> >>>>>> Anyway, they asked me if some of you would like to step up to this >>>>>> proposal, either as an initial committer or mentor. I think this is a >>>>>> great opportunity! >>>>>> >>>>>> Please let me know so I can tell the people and sign up at the >>>>>> proposal link above. Any questions, shout! :-) >>>>>> >>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>> Christian >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> http://www.grobmeier.de >>> >> >> > > > > -- > http://www.grobmeier.de >
