On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 4:57 PM, Andrus Adamchik <[email protected]> wrote: > Saw your message on the board list. Whatever the Incubator docs might say, I > think you are looking for Incubator PMC sponsorship with the goal to become a > TLP.
Are you sure on that? http://incubator.apache.org/incubation/Roles_and_Responsibilities.html#Sponsor They say only if I don't know where the project goes afterwards, then I should use the IPMC sponsorship oh dear........ i hate it when something like that happens :-( > > Andrus > > > On Sep 20, 2011, at 5:32 PM, Christian Grobmeier wrote: > >> Makes sense to me - I feel similar. But I needed to ask, because one >> of the core developers was a huge fan of Cayenne in the past ;-) >> >> On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 4:29 PM, Andrus Adamchik <[email protected]> >> wrote: >>> I am of the opinion that "umbrella TLP's" that aggregate loosely related >>> subjects are a bad. The most visible such project at Apache is Jakarta, and >>> it is taking years to dissolve it, moving active projects to TLP's and >>> inactive - to the Attic. ASF doesn't have a limit on the number of TLPs and >>> the Board is actively encouraging each distinct community to orm its own. >>> >>> To me the main criteria for a subproject would be a significant overlap in >>> the committer/PMC base between the 2 projects. Otherwise we are just >>> impeding the community development IMO. >>> >>> Consider that DirectMemory becoming a Cayenne subproject would mean that >>> Cayenne PMC will need to vote on DirectMemory releases. This doesn't make >>> much sense with the current PMC composition (we have no people involved in >>> DirectMemory development on the current PMC). If we vote in DirectMemory >>> folks to the Cayenne PMC, and they will vote on DirectMemory releases, >>> while we'll vote on Cayenne releases, we still don't have a cohesive PMC, >>> and there's no reason why DirectMemory can't be a TLP in that later case >>> anyways. >>> >>> Hope this makes sense. >>> >>> Andrus >>> >>> >>> On Sep 20, 2011, at 5:04 PM, Christian Grobmeier wrote: >>> >>>> On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 3:56 PM, Andrus Adamchik <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>>> Looking at my reply, the first paragraph came out a bit brash. Didn't >>>>> mean it to sound that way :) >>>> >>>> no worries, i didn't get it wrong :-) >>>> >>>>> Certainly a great proposal, and looks like it has already generated quite >>>>> some interest in the Incubator. So good luck, and keep us posted. We are >>>>> definitely interested to try it out as a Cayenne cache provider. >>>> >>>> Will keep you posted. Anyway any other Cayenne committer is welcome >>>> to, either as dev, mentor whatever. >>>> >>>> Another question- DirectMemory is currently looking for a sponsor. One >>>> of the thing which has been discussed internally was if Cayenne would >>>> sponsor it. After incubation it would be expected that DM is an >>>> subproject of Cayenne. As the implementation is basically a general >>>> one, I have some feeling it would make a good TLD. On the other hand, >>>> it can be made a TLD later and could start as Cayenne-Subproject. This >>>> might have benefits for all sides. >>>> >>>> How do you (all) feel about this? >>>> >>>> Cheers >>>> Christian >>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>>> Cheers, >>>>> Andrus >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Sep 20, 2011, at 12:29 PM, Andrus Adamchik wrote: >>>>>> I can't mentor any more projects. I am mentoring Wave and also incoming >>>>>> OpenMeetings. >>>>>> >>>>>> The idea is great, and as long as it is not as invasive as Terracotta, >>>>>> we'll definitely be interested to try it out and give feedback. The >>>>>> usability of DirectMemory in Cayenne depends on >>>>>> >>>>>> * the API model they provide to the applications >>>>>> * whether we can build a cache adapter with groups support >>>>>> * on speed of serialization with LOCAL and SHARED cache. (I'd imagine it >>>>>> will be more appropriate for SHARED, as it stores DataRows with no >>>>>> relationships and detached from the context). >>>>>> >>>>>> Andrus >>>>>> >>>>>> On Sep 20, 2011, at 11:50 AM, Christian Grobmeier wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hello folks, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> a new proposal will arrive at the incubator the next few days: >>>>>>> http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/DirectMemoryProposal >>>>>>> >>>>>>> It is a cache implementation similar to OSCache. Now I know about the >>>>>>> discussion of the OSCache usage the past weeks and thought, this might >>>>>>> be a good chance for Cayenne to bring in own needs etc. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I told the guys that Cayenne might benefit from this new lib. They >>>>>>> liked that idea very much, so it seems. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Anyway, they asked me if some of you would like to step up to this >>>>>>> proposal, either as an initial committer or mentor. I think this is a >>>>>>> great opportunity! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Please let me know so I can tell the people and sign up at the >>>>>>> proposal link above. Any questions, shout! :-) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>>> Christian >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> http://www.grobmeier.de >>>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> http://www.grobmeier.de >> > > -- http://www.grobmeier.de
