I don't really see the point of deleting something that isn't causing any harm by sitting there 'just in case'. But (4) I understand... :-) If it makes you feel good, then go for it. Remember to keep a backup of the html somewhere since we'll have no way to regenerate them if something goes wrong or
some automated script 'cleans up' our website.

Ari

On Tue Oct 11 17:41:54 2011, Andrus Adamchik wrote:
Let me try to formulate my argument as bullet points. I think there's some 
misunderstanding what will happen...

1. We are NOT deleting any HTML docs - old or new (Mike's concern). We are 
deleting the wiki backend that manages them that nobody uses anyways 
(especially for old docs).

2. We have a Confluence migration coming. Why not finish 80% of it now and get 
it out of the way. It will happen in 6 (or something) months anyways.

3. I want to discourage (by making it impossible) using the wiki for further 
document work. Minor fixes to old docs can be done in HTML (haven't seen anyone 
doing them for ages). New docs must be done via docbook.

4. Finally we have very limited resources maintaining everything Cayenne related. And a 
chance to get rid of huge blob of "stuff" just makes me feel good :-)

Andrus


On Oct 11, 2011, at 5:04 AM, Aristedes Maniatis wrote:

Yes, I agree. Why are we deleting the spaces? Say we need to fix a problem in 
the old docs in the future... nice to be able to do that in Confluence. I don't 
see the benefit in removing this resource. Why not let it live for as long as 
Confluence remains live at Apache, or until we break the whole autoexport thing 
with a move to Apache CMS in the future.

Ari


On 11/10/11 11:40 AM, Mike Kienenberger wrote:
Yes, please don't delete any old cayenne documentation if those
documents cannot be found elsewhere.

On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 6:56 PM, Michael Gentry<[email protected]>   wrote:
Will this get rid of the Cayenne 2.0 docs?  I'm pretty sure some are
still using that (like Mike K).

mrg


On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 3:23 PM, Andrus Adamchik<[email protected]>   
wrote:

On Oct 9, 2011, at 11:19 AM, Andrus Adamchik wrote:


(1) continues to tick another as is, until I have time to spend on learning 
Apache CMS, navigating a bunch of obscure Perl, etc.


As for old CAYDOC, I don't see why we'd want to delete old documentation. That 
is still useful.

We have 4 versions of the documentation with the wiki process - (a) dynamic on 
Wiki, (b) autoexported on wiki (cwiki.apache.org), (c) cloned from (b) to our 
site, (d) - specially formatted version of (a) in SVN. My suggestion is to 
remove (a) and (b) as we don't need them, but keep the (c) and (d).

So a last chance to stop the deletion of these spaces... Planning to do it 
tomorrow.




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