That's very simple.

Perfect ;)


Kind regards,
Mikhail

Четверг, 19 сентября 2013, 12:24 -04:00 от Jim Jagielski <[email protected]>:
>Fully-baked ?
>Achieved ?
>Completed ?
>Legacy-mode ?
>
>On Sep 19, 2013, at 11:14 AM, Sally Khudairi < [email protected] > wrote:
>
>> <peanutgallery>
>> 
>> "Napping" immediately came to mind when reading Jim's note <g>
>> 
>> I agree wrt "dormant"; although it is exactly what we're talking about, it 
>> insinuates something negative. "Ripe" is hilarious.
>> 
>> How about something along the lines of "holding" or "at rest"?
>> 
>> </peanutgallery>
>> 
>> 
>> - Sally
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> ________________________________
>>> From: "[email protected]" < [email protected] >
>>> To:  [email protected]
>>> Cc: Ingie < [email protected] >;  [email protected]
>>> Sent: Thursday, 19 September 2013, 11:07
>>> Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Retirement into the Attic
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I like this idea, especially the relaxing of the reporting schedule.
>>> 
>>> But I worry about the connotation of "dormant". Perhaps "mature", 
>>> "sustaining", "stable", "steady-state", "lasting"?
>>> 
>>> "Ripe"? ^_^
>>> 
>>> --k
>>> 
>>> On 2013.Sep.19, at 7.16a, Jim Jagielski < [email protected] > wrote:
>>> 
>>>> This is a good point. Sometimes projects are just done, and
>>>> retiring them to the Attic does portray a project that
>>>> is no longer relevant or used or useful. Nor will people
>>>> pick up and start using projects in the Attic.
>>>> 
>>>> Maybe we need some other classification of project, like
>>>> 'Dormant'. These would be projects that could obtain the
>>>> required 3 developers and votes, but basically are
>>>> just done; their reporting could be every 6 months, etc...
>>>> 
>>>> Thoughts?
>>>> 
>>>> On Sep 19, 2013, at 3:39 AM, Ingie < [email protected] > wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Dear Chris,
>>>>> 
>>>>> I use Click for several apps for years. I started with 2.3.0 and now I 
>>>>> use.... hm..... 2.3.0 ;)
>>>>> 
>>>>> There are number of reasons that makes this project different.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 1. Not so many bugfixes as usual. Because it's JUST WORKS. Apps based on 
>>>>> Click are very stable.
>>>>> 2. Lack of activity in discussions, no documentation updates, no new 
>>>>> examples. Because it's REALLY SIMPLE. Look at Cheat Sheet pdf. It's the 
>>>>> only documentation I read years ago. And that's enough.
>>>>> 3. No releases. Because it's PERFECT. It's minimal stateless framework 
>>>>> for developers who needs minimal stateless framework. 
>>>>> 
>>>>> From the other side.
>>>>> It's really no difference for me, for example, is the project retired or 
>>>>> not. (Sorry) Because framework is perfect and just works. Next project I 
>>>>> will start I will use Click. I will not go to Apache site for newest 
>>>>> version. I will not use Wicket, for example. I already have one, that 
>>>>> fits my needs. So, I think Attic is not the place for Click. Attic is the 
>>>>> place for projects with no future. Click is the project with no further 
>>>>> development. Maybe it's different things. For the first 2-5 years.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Kind regards, 
>>>>> Mikhail Peresypkin
>>>>> 
>>>>> Среда, 18 сентября 2013, 11:00 -07:00 от Chris Mattmann < 
>>>>> [email protected] >:
>>>>> Dear Apache Click PMC,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Based on your board report for September 2013, I'm
>>>>> starting a thread here on the dev list for retirement
>>>>> of Apache Click.
>>>>> 
>>>>> If you have any opinions, for or against retirement,
>>>>> please make them known. If discussion doesn't really
>>>>> urge against retirement in the next week I'll call
>>>>> an official [VOTE] thread with resolution to retire
>>>>> the project to the Attic.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thank you for your attention to this matter.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> Chris
>>>>> (on behalf of the Apache Board)
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
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