Fully-baked ? Achieved ? Completed ? Legacy-mode ? On Sep 19, 2013, at 11:14 AM, Sally Khudairi <[email protected]> wrote:
> <peanutgallery> > > "Napping" immediately came to mind when reading Jim's note <g> > > I agree wrt "dormant"; although it is exactly what we're talking about, it > insinuates something negative. "Ripe" is hilarious. > > How about something along the lines of "holding" or "at rest"? > > </peanutgallery> > > > - Sally > > > >> ________________________________ >> From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> >> To: [email protected] >> Cc: Ingie <[email protected]>; [email protected] >> Sent: Thursday, 19 September 2013, 11:07 >> Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Retirement into the Attic >> >> >> I like this idea, especially the relaxing of the reporting schedule. >> >> But I worry about the connotation of "dormant". Perhaps "mature", >> "sustaining", "stable", "steady-state", "lasting"? >> >> "Ripe"? ^_^ >> >> --k >> >> On 2013.Sep.19, at 7.16a, Jim Jagielski <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> This is a good point. Sometimes projects are just done, and >>> retiring them to the Attic does portray a project that >>> is no longer relevant or used or useful. Nor will people >>> pick up and start using projects in the Attic. >>> >>> Maybe we need some other classification of project, like >>> 'Dormant'. These would be projects that could obtain the >>> required 3 developers and votes, but basically are >>> just done; their reporting could be every 6 months, etc... >>> >>> Thoughts? >>> >>> On Sep 19, 2013, at 3:39 AM, Ingie <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Dear Chris, >>>> >>>> I use Click for several apps for years. I started with 2.3.0 and now I >>>> use.... hm..... 2.3.0 ;) >>>> >>>> There are number of reasons that makes this project different. >>>> >>>> 1. Not so many bugfixes as usual. Because it's JUST WORKS. Apps based on >>>> Click are very stable. >>>> 2. Lack of activity in discussions, no documentation updates, no new >>>> examples. Because it's REALLY SIMPLE. Look at Cheat Sheet pdf. It's the >>>> only documentation I read years ago. And that's enough. >>>> 3. No releases. Because it's PERFECT. It's minimal stateless framework for >>>> developers who needs minimal stateless framework. >>>> >>>> From the other side. >>>> It's really no difference for me, for example, is the project retired or >>>> not. (Sorry) Because framework is perfect and just works. Next project I >>>> will start I will use Click. I will not go to Apache site for newest >>>> version. I will not use Wicket, for example. I already have one, that fits >>>> my needs. So, I think Attic is not the place for Click. Attic is the place >>>> for projects with no future. Click is the project with no further >>>> development. Maybe it's different things. For the first 2-5 years. >>>> >>>> >>>> Kind regards, >>>> Mikhail Peresypkin >>>> >>>> Среда, 18 сентября 2013, 11:00 -07:00 от Chris Mattmann >>>> <[email protected]>: >>>> Dear Apache Click PMC, >>>> >>>> Based on your board report for September 2013, I'm >>>> starting a thread here on the dev list for retirement >>>> of Apache Click. >>>> >>>> If you have any opinions, for or against retirement, >>>> please make them known. If discussion doesn't really >>>> urge against retirement in the next week I'll call >>>> an official [VOTE] thread with resolution to retire >>>> the project to the Attic. >>>> >>>> Thank you for your attention to this matter. >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> Chris >>>> (on behalf of the Apache Board) >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >> >> >> >
