-1 We are trying to get MORE people to use CloudStack. And raising the barrier to entry does nothing to help that.
Kind regards, Paul Angus paul.an...@shapeblue.com www.shapeblue.com 53 Chandos Place, Covent Garden, London WC2N 4HSUK @shapeblue -----Original Message----- From: Abhinandan Prateek [mailto:abhinandan.prat...@shapeblue.com] Sent: 01 March 2017 09:39 To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org Subject: Re: Modern template hosting +1 After seeing this discussion running in circles several times, I think we should at least get started with the simplest option. On 27/02/17, 11:54 PM, "Chiradeep Vittal" <chirade...@gmail.com> wrote: >The alternative foolproof way is to simply not provide the automatic >download. > >Just document the mirror list URL where the templates can be found. I >don't know why people reject this option. > >https://shankerbalan.net/blog/seed-cloudstack-templates-offline/ > >On Mon, Feb 27, 2017 at 10:15 AM, Will Stevens ><williamstev...@gmail.com> >wrote: > >> OK. Thanks for the heads up. >> >> On Feb 27, 2017 1:08 PM, "Chiradeep Vittal" <chirade...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> > Sounds workable. The downloader code in the SSVM won't follow >> > redirects I think. >> > https://github.com/apache/cloudstack/blob/5511065fc20787619d9cd0444 >> > a65a3 155fc9c921/core/src/com/cloud/storage/template/ >> > HttpTemplateDownloader.java#L93 >> > https://goo.gl/dSi0r5 >> > Might need to add >> > client.setRedirectStrategy(new LaxRedirectStrategy()); >> > >> > On Mon, Feb 27, 2017 at 9:57 AM, Will Stevens >> > <wstev...@cloudops.com> >> > wrote: >> > >> > > We haven't opened a ticket yet because we don't have a strategy yet. >> > > >> > > What do you guys think of this: >> > > - We setup a new github repo in the 'apache' org which consists >> > > of a >> > single >> > > file with a list of active/supported mirrors. >> > > - I write a small web server, distributed as a binary, which can >> > > be >> > hosted >> > > by ASF Infra. This web server will query the current list of >> > > mirrors >> and >> > > will select one and then do a 302 redirect to that mirror. >> > > >> > > The act of 'choosing' a mirror could be done in a number of ways. >> > > - If we want to define an order, then it could just try from the >> > > top of >> > the >> > > list and work its way down. It would curl the target to make >> > > sure it >> > gets >> > > a 200 and if it does, it would do a 302 redirect. >> > > - Or, if we want to distribute the load across the mirrors, we >> > > could >> pick >> > > from the list randomly. Again, doing a curl to verify the mirror >> > > is up >> > and >> > > then doing a redirect. >> > > - If we want to get fancy, we could do a reverse IP lookup and >> > > try to >> > match >> > > the requester with their closest geographical mirror. >> > > >> > > Thoughts? >> > > >> > > *Will STEVENS* >> > > Lead Developer >> > > >> > > <https://goo.gl/NYZ8KK> >> > > >> > > On Mon, Feb 27, 2017 at 12:46 PM, Chiradeep Vittal < >> chirade...@gmail.com >> > > >> > > wrote: >> > > >> > > > What steps are needed to set up a mirror? What does Infra need to do? >> > Has >> > > > anybody filed a ticket with Infra? >> > > > >> > > > On Sun, Feb 26, 2017 at 10:17 PM, Raja Pullela < >> > > > raja.pull...@accelerite.com> >> > > > wrote: >> > > > >> > > > > Hi will, >> > > > > >> > > > > I believe, we didn’t get to close ‘getting a mirror on Apache’ >> > because >> > > we >> > > > > needed someone on the Apache Infra side to close this. BTW, >> > > > > cloudstack-apt.get.eu (I think Nux manages this?) has >> > > > > all/most of >> > the >> > > > > content. Once we can close on the Apache mirror for hosting >> > > > > the >> > > > content, I >> > > > > can help assist getting the content there. >> > > > > >> > > > > For now, we have replicated the download.cloud.com content to >> > > > > ‘ s3.download.accelerite.com’. >> > > > > Also, we are working on a set of steps/procedure to help with >> > > > > this change. I will update everyone in about a week’s time >> > > > > on the >> > details. >> > > > > >> > > > > Best, >> > > > > Raja Pullela >> > > > > Engineering Team, >> > > > > Accelerite, 2055 Laurelwood Road, Santa Clara, CA, 95054 >> > > > > >> > > > > On 2/24/17, 11:23 PM, "williamstev...@gmail.com on behalf of >> > > > > Will Stevens" <williamstev...@gmail.com on behalf of >> > wstev...@cloudops.com> >> > > > > wrote: >> > > > > >> > > > > unfortunately the template mirror conversation got caught up >> > > > > in >> > details >> > > > and >> > > > > nobody took the lead on implementing a solution. >> > > > > >> > > > > citrix has been pinging me every couple months to say 'dude, >> > > > > we >> need >> > to >> > > > > remove the dependency on download.citrix.com', but i have not >> > > > > had >> > the >> > > > > cycles to get in and solve the problem. the shutdown of that >> > > > > is >> > > imminent >> > > > > right now, so we need to solve it asap. >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > *Will STEVENS* >> > > > > Lead Developer >> > > > > >> > > > > <https://goo.gl/NYZ8KK> >> > > > > >> > > > > On Fri, Feb 24, 2017 at 12:38 PM, Paul Angus < >> > paul.an...@shapeblue.com >> > > > >> > > > > wrote: >> > > > > >> > > > > > Hi Nathan, >> > > > > > >> > > > > > Ideally, if you put the template location in (or use a >> > > > > > template >> > > defined >> > > > > > in) test_data.py then the actual location can be >> > > > > > overridden by >> > > anyone >> > > > > > testing. >> > > > > > >> > > > > > For Trillian, we've copied all of the templates that people >> > > > > > have >> > > define >> > > > > to >> > > > > > a local repo and then replace the URLs in test_data.py to >> > > > > > reduce >> > > > > bandwidth >> > > > > > use and download times. >> > > > > > >> > > > > > Ie: >> > > > > > >> > > > > > "bootableIso": >> > > > > > { >> > > > > > "displaytext": "Test Bootable ISO", >> > > > > > "name": "testISO", >> > > > > > "bootable": True, >> > > > > > "ispublic": False, >> > > > > > "url": "{{ marvin_images_location >> > > > > > }}/TinyCore-current.iso", >> > > > > > "ostype": 'Other Linux (64-bit)', >> > > > > > "mode": 'HTTP_DOWNLOAD' >> > > > > > }, >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > I thought that we had come up with a solution for >> > download.cloud.com >> > > , >> > > > by >> > > > > > having a mirrorlist hosted in Community Apache 'space' with >> anyone >> > > able >> > > > > to >> > > > > > out themselves forward as a mirror. >> > > > > > But I must admit I lost track of whether anyone made the >> requisite >> > > > > changes >> > > > > > in code.... >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > Kind regards, >> > > > > > >> > > > > > Paul Angus >> > > > > > >> > > > > > paul.an...@shapeblue.com >> > > > > > www.shapeblue.com >> > > > > > 53 Chandos Place, Covent Garden, London WC2N 4HSUK >> > > > > > @shapeblue >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > -----Original Message----- >> > > > > > From: williamstev...@gmail.com >> > > > > > [mailto:williamstev...@gmail.com] >> > On >> > > > > > Behalf Of Will Stevens >> > > > > > Sent: 24 February 2017 16:30 >> > > > > > To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org >> > > > > > Subject: Re: Modern template hosting >> > > > > > >> > > > > > this is a hard questions. in general, we should be setting >> > > > > > up a >> > > mirror >> > > > > on >> > > > > > some cloudstack/apache domain and then mirror to other >> > > > > > provided >> > > > > templates. >> > > > > > >> > > > > > we MUST come up with a solution to deprecate >> > > > > > 'download.cloud.com >> ', >> > > > that >> > > > > > is going to be going away any day now. >> > > > > > >> > > > > > i don't know the right way to solve this to be honest, but >> > > > > > if you >> > > have >> > > > > > ideas, i am willing to help. >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > *Will STEVENS* >> > > > > > Lead Developer >> > > > > > >> > > > > > <https://goo.gl/NYZ8KK> >> > > > > > >> > > > > > On Fri, Feb 24, 2017 at 11:25 AM, Nathan Johnson < >> njohn...@ena.com >> > > >> > > > > wrote: >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > So not to re-open a can of worms, but I’m in a situation >> > > > > > > where >> I >> > > need >> > > > > > > to come up with a Marvin component test that depends on a >> > template >> > > > > > > based on a kernel that’s relatively new, i.e., newer than >> Centos >> > > 5.3 >> > > > / >> > > > > > Ubuntu 10.04 . >> > > > > > > I see openvm.eu has a suitable template (Ubuntu 16.0.4 >> > > > > > > for >> KVM), >> > > but >> > > > > > > from looking at the thread "Migrating CloudStack content >> > > > > > > from download.cloud.com” it looks like there is >> > > > > > > resistance to using >> > > this >> > > > at >> > > > > > > least for hosting system vm templates over concerns of >> > neutrality. >> > > > > > > Would this be suitable for a component test? 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