On Thu, 22 Sep 2016 11:06:33 -0700, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote:
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From: Emmanuel Bourg [mailto:emmanuel.bo...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of
Emmanuel Bourg
Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2016 10:34
To: Commons Developers List <dev@commons.apache.org>
Subject: Re: [RNG] License text location(s) (Was: [jira] RNG-18 [...])


Le 22/09/2016 à 19:09, Gary Gregory a écrit :
> Our project LICENSE.txt file is just for the Apache 2.0 license text.
>
> Other mentions go in the NOTICE.txt file.

That's my understanding too, but there are many counter-examples:

https://github.com/apache/jmeter/blob/trunk/LICENSE#L180
https://github.com/apache/spark/blob/master/LICENSE#L205
https://github.com/apache/lucene-
solr/blob/master/lucene/LICENSE.txt#L212
https://github.com/apache/hadoop/blob/trunk/LICENSE.txt#L205
https://github.com/apache/hbase/blob/master/LICENSE.txt#L205
https://github.com/apache/avro/blob/master/LICENSE.txt#L205

And Commons Math, obviously, since I copied "LICENCE.txt"
from there.

See
  http://www.math.sci.hiroshima-u.ac.jp/~m-mat/MT/MT2002/elicense.html

Originally, the code was LGPL, and IIUC is used as such in Python.

The site of MT's author references implementations in other
languages a.o. in Java:
http://www.math.sci.hiroshima-u.ac.jp/~m-mat/MT/VERSIONS/JAVA/PATCH/MTRandom.java

And they do not carry the "required" notice!

We seem to be nit-picking quite heavily...

Is it a notice ("no warranty")?
Is it a license ("you are free to redistribute provided the notice
is kept")?


Regards,
Gilles


Emmanuel Bourg


[orcmid]

Yes, there is general consternation about this, especially on the
incubator list.

Here is one resource <http://www.apache.org/legal/src-headers.html>.
Note that [Required] Notices appear in NOTICE, not licenses.  There
are other places where this is being worked on.  I don't have links
handy.

Here's an example that could be simplified by moving the detailed
Copyright Notices (essentially licenses) to LICENSE.txt and
simplifying the NOTICE file:

<https://docs.oracle.com/cloud/latest/big-data-discovery-cloud/BDDLG/cl_apache_commons_math_1_2.htm>.
 I am not a good source of advice about this.

The go-to person on this topic appears to be Justin Mclean who can be
found on legal-discuss@ and general-incubator@ on these matters.




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