On Mon, 18 Feb 2019 at 19:19, Manfred Moser <manf...@simpligility.com> wrote:
>
> Ultimately I think the only way you can move the needle on this is by
>
> 1. talking about it like you did
>
> 2. making it happen - e.g. you could just start with your own project, agree 
> in your PM group to mirror to gitlab and then adapt your processes
>
> In the end .. imho it doesnt matter where you mirror to ... the bigger 
> question is what you do with your workflow in terms
> of accepting pull requests and such. And there is definitely a danger of 
> becoming dependent on a commercial entity (MS/Github) .. but then you already 
> e,g. use JIRA for your issue tracking now..

AFAIK, the ASF JIRA runs on ASF hardware, as does Bugzilla.

> Manfred
>
> Julian Foad wrote on 2019-02-18 06:30:
>
> > Thanks for your comments, Rich.
> >
> > Re. "owning our data": we do own our source code but what about all the
> > conversational metadata in GH? In the Subversion project we have a GH 
> > mirror of
> > the code but pull requests and code comments etc. in GH aren't even copied 
> > to
> > the Subversion PMC mailing lists, apart from the first message in each PR 
> > which
> > is; these are known limitations.
> >
> > Re. "infra": infra is here to create and manage the infra to support the
> > projects' wants and needs; I am speaking here to the community to try to
> > influence their wants and needs.
> >
> > - Julian
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