On Sat, Mar 30, 2019 at 9:33 AM Jim Jagielski <j...@jagunet.com> wrote: > > I would ask that this goes both ways... I think in order to get buy-in > from everyone, instead of those who may not agree with some premise, > our reaction should not be "you are wrong; you just can't see it. So STFU." > Instead, help educate them that there actually is a problem.
My experience, like Ross's is that doing such rarely ends well. But I'll give it a try. Let's see how it goes. Imagine you are one of a few women in a room full of men. You are uncertain as to whether you belong or are welcome. A highly respected and accomplished man makes the following statement: "Merit has nothing to do with gender, or race, or religion, or what genitalia one has or is attracted to. If your idea of what constitutes merit is based on any of these, then that's a f'ed up definition of merit. That means it's a problem w/ how merit is defined, and not meritocracy per se." For clarity: this is not a question as to whether the statement is correct or whether the intent is correct. This is a question as to whether you feel that would make this hypothetical woman feel more welcome or less welcome. - Sam Ruby --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@community.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@community.apache.org