On Wed, Dec 4, 2019 at 12:15 PM Rich Bowen <rbo...@rcbowen.com> wrote: > > I've made two posts on this list in the past couple of days regarding > the rising ACL effort and my concerns about it. > > I *desperately* want this kind of grass-roots enthusiast community > effort. I do NOT want to kill it. But I've learned from Fedora user > groups that allowing any random stranger to start up a group, using our > Trademarks, to promote whatever message comes into their head, is > *going* to bite us in the butt, sooner rather than later. > > This is *NOT* about the Indore group and their recent event. Rather it's > about the future. The groups currently out there are full of experienced > Apache people. All well and good. The second wave will be full of people > wanting to promote their business, or their personal brand, using our > name, and spreading misinformation about Apache under our official banner. > > We *cannot* allow this to happen. To do so would be a dereliction of our > duty as a PMC. We must plan for the bad actors, even while enabling the > good actors. > > I'm not entirely sure what I'm proposing, but I think that requiring, at > this stage, at least one Member to be involved in the creation and > mentoring of a new group, is a reasonable path. > > A brief discussion of these issues has occurred on the > priv...@community.apache.org mailing list, where I was rightfully called > out for having the conversation in private rather than in public. So, > moving the conversation here, as is appropriate.
One potential (if not solution -- but at least a line of thought) could be to bring these efforts into the fold officially by requiring them to be official sub-projects of ComDev PMC. Then we can have a policy requiring a certain governance oversight over those sub-projects (like requiring a certain # of PMC/members, etc.). Thanks, Roman. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@community.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@community.apache.org
