From the peanut gallery: IMO, without a formal training/certification program,
what even an ASF Member understands about the Apache Way, not to mention
committers who are not members, is up for grabs. It is essentially the party
game "telephone" where one person says something to another person who tries to
pass it on.
Also, it is humans speaking and humans listening, so misspeaking and
misunderstanding is guaranteed.
Seems like a better approach is along the lines of what the Events page Shane
linked to contains. It contains a disclaimer for events. I thought we were
supposed to also include a disclaimer in slide decks, but I couldn't find a
reference to that.
IOW, if you require a disclaimer that people speaking about Apache are just
enthusiastic volunteers and not official spokespeople, and have them state how
long they've been with involved at Apache as contributor/committer/member, then
these community groups are the same as anyone else talking about the good
things at Apache at some potluck dinner with friends. It doesn't have to be
100% accurate, it just has to get the word out in a reasonable fashion.
And then you will get good at fixing common misunderstandings and create a FAQ
of common misunderstandings to guide future presentations. "Oh, well that
person is relatively new to the ASF and didn't quite grok that yet. The real
story is...."
IMO, better to plan for error recovery than to attempt perfection in the
message.
-Alex
On 12/5/19, 7:53 AM, "Jim Jagielski" <j...@jagunet.com> wrote:
> On Dec 5, 2019, at 3:52 AM, Mark Thomas <ma...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> Picking up on one point
>
> On 05/12/2019 05:31, Swapnil M Mane wrote:
>
>> -- To form an ALC, there should be at least 2 committers or 1 ASF member.
>
> I don't agree with this. I don't think this is acceptable. The bar for
> committership is too low to be used as a test for "Understands the
> Apache Way".
Maybe 2 PMC members...?
