On Feb 6, 2009, at 12:02 PM, Noah Slater wrote:

In this light, I would like to make two points:

* Please stop saying that the word "PMC" is bandied about frequently. This is
   provably false.

MarkMail has archives of many of the ASF mailing lists. The archive for httpd, the original project goes back to 1999:

<http://httpd.markmail.org/search/?q=PMC>

In that almost 10 year period: 247 references of any kind to PMC in the dev list.

For CouchDB's 1 years, 79 references in the dev list.

<http://couchdb.markmail.org/search/?q=PMC>

What I said:

I don't know if this is what Geir means, but there is a lot of use of the letters PMC in messages on the list. Much more than usual, in my experience. That may sound like a small thing, but that kind of small thing, repeated over time, can lead to a highly stratified community, which is undesirable.

So we have 79/yr for couch and 25/yr for httpd.  that's 3x.

Also, absent from your list of messages is the long thread in user@ titled

"Current CouchDB state", which has numerous usages, as well as a troubling exchange with Jim Jagielski.

I'm very disappointed that we've now degenerated into message counting.

Ted

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