A bit busy right now but _history seems the exact opposite of the _rev
-> _mvcc name change. We want to clarify that CouchDB does *not*
provide history.

B.

On 15 April 2012 12:56, Robert Newson <rnew...@apache.org> wrote:
> Including comments from the gist;
>
> from mcoolin;
>
> I'd add a definitions section for the following:
> CORS - Cross-origin resource sharing (CORS) is a web browser
> technology specification, which defines ways for a web server to allow
> its resources to be accessed by a web page from a different domain.
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cross-origin_resource_sharing
>
> EventSource - Server-sent events is a technology for providing push
> notifications from a server to a browser client in the form of DOM
> events. The Server-Sent Events EventSource API is now being
> standardized as part of HTML5[1] by the W3C.
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Server-sent_events
>
> SPDY - SPDY (pronounced speedy)[1] is an experimental networking
> protocol developed primarily at Google for transporting web
> content.[1] Although not currently a standard protocol, the group
> developing SPDY has stated publicly that it is working toward
> standardization (available now as an Internet Draft[2]), and has
> reference implementations available in both Google Chrome [3] and
> Mozilla Firefox.[4] SPDY is similar to HTTP, with particular goals to
> reduce web page load latency and improve web security. SPDY achieves
> reduced latency through compression, multiplexing, and
> prioritization.[1] The name is not an acronym, but is a shortened
> version of the word "speedy".[5] SPDY is a trademark of Google.[6]
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SPDY
>
> I would include the two lists in any upcoming vote, perhaps as separate votes.
>
> A few other comments:
> On Number 4 in the first list: Seems to be only a partial description,
> remove data from record and do what with it? How would it be accessed
> and used. especially _id, likely to have a major impact on any project
> using couchdb.
>
> On number 3: Hard dependencies on SpiderMonkey, Should this not be
> discussed more? Performance being a big issue, V8 may be a better
> choice or a set of native erlang routines or some other derivative.
>
> and my reply;
>
> I deliberately left out definitions for those on the basis that if you
> don't know what they are, you have no business asserting its a high
> priority for our project.
>
> For item 4, the description does state that a question remains on
> where they go and suggests custom HTTP headers, so I don't follow your
> point. _id in particular would still be in the URL.
>
> For the spidermonkey issue, it is not at all clear that switching to
> V8 will improve performance (it's largely a myth that V8 is faster
> than spidermonkey anyway). The main feature for improving performance
> is identified as "View server protocol enhancements/refactoring".
>
> On 15 April 2012 12:25, Bob Dionne <dio...@dionne-associates.com> wrote:
>> Benoit,
>>
>> Thanks for mentioning the "links" item, that should definitely be in the 
>> list. I'd be curious to know what kind if usage the Basho folks have seen 
>> with that one.
>>
>> I think it's a good feature but I also think it kind of runs against the 
>> grain architecturally in couchdb. Documents now are completely independent 
>> of one another which is simple. This forces use cases that need "links" to 
>> do so in the application layer. There are many reasons I think of that folks 
>> would want this, building trees, graphs, SQL-like queries, navigation, etc. 
>> so I think it's a nice feature to add, *but* I would do so in a way that 
>> doesn't change the independence of documents, .ie. make it orthogonal, a 
>> plugin to core.
>>
>> Bob
>>
>> On Apr 15, 2012, at 6:17 AM, Benoit Chesneau wrote:
>>
>>> On Sun, Apr 15, 2012 at 12:02 PM, Robert Newson <rnew...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>> He's what I have so far: https://gist.github.com/2387973
>>>>
>>>> I think it's pretty close. Only the User-Facing section should be in
>>>> the next vote.
>>>>
>>>> B.
>>>>
>>> Most is OK for me. A couple of remarks on user facing though:
>>>
>>> 1.3 : _rev renaming should be placed in another part, and maybe a
>>> developper facing thing . Also other way to embrace it is proposing an
>>> _history member.
>>>
>>> 3. we shouldn't talk about a specific tech. As far as I rememebr we
>>> only talk on a distributed PKI wich openid isn't. OpenID is fine but
>>> maybe we can put the choice of supported implementations for a next
>>> vote?
>>>
>>> 4. maybe can be summarized as "metadata won't be exposed in the Json
>>> Document" ? Or at least the raw document won't be edited by couch.
>>> Some on irc for example was proposing for example to have {"_id": ...,
>>> "_raw": ...}
>>>
>>> links/nested doc feature is missing .
>>>
>>>
>>> I will do another round on dev facing features later.
>>>
>>> - benoƮt
>>

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