Benoit, As you seem to be a steward of the Google+ community, I was wondering this morning if you would consider doing a weekly roundup of the activity happening over there?
See my recent posts to the user list with links to StackOverflow questions. Do you think this would be valuable? On 5 March 2013 20:27, Noah Slater <[email protected]> wrote: > We are the community organisers for CouchDB. This list. Everyone reading > this email. > > And the ASF tools might be clunky and whatever, but we have to make do > with them. And the ASF community guidelines dictate to us that we must keep > project activity happening on the lists where it can be seen by everyone. > > These guidelines are not arbitrary either. Their goal is not to suppress > any discussion of a project outside of the project. Their goal is to make > sure that communities do not become fractured. Which is, again, a problem > that we ought to take seriously. How do we get as much of the project > activity happening in a single place so people can follow it? > > Benoit, I think a weekly news thing is a great idea. And I've been > considering this for a few weeks now. Check out what CloudStack do. It's a > weekly roundup of all the things going on on the lists, and off the lists. > > https://blogs.apache.org/cloudstack/entry/apache_cloudstack_weekly_news_11 > > I asked a few questions about how this is being put together. Response > here: > > http://markmail.org/message/d5td5ysoxonm7lvl > > Now, who wants to take this idea and run with it? > > Matt, if you make a request to infra they might consider removing your > mail. > > > On 5 March 2013 16:34, matt j. sorenson <[email protected]> wrote: > >> also - invariably i will forget to rip my phone # out of my email sig when >> responding to a publicly archived mailing list! gah! >> >> -- >> *matt * >> >> >> On Tue, Mar 5, 2013 at 10:29 AM, matt j. sorenson <[email protected] >> >wrote: >> >> > 1) community growth will happen organically (as it ought), or it won't >> > happen. >> > >> > 2) I believe email is the least best "single" canonical destination. >> > >> > Not least of all because the mailing list and the apache web interface >> to >> > the mailing list is a lousy news, information, and knowledge archive. >> That >> > in itself is enough of a limiting factor. >> > >> > I think Benoit's on the right track - on the website, s/Mailing >> > List/Community and build the couchdb "planet", which aggregates the >> pockets >> > of couchdb cliques (as you refer to them) around the web as they emerge >> > and/or are discovered. Then encourage more cliques and more sharing. The >> > web decentralizes naturally and if someone thinks they can buck that and >> > control it, it will probably do more harm than good. >> > >> > p.s. who *is* (are) the community organizer(s) for couchdb? >> > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > *matt j. sorenson* >> > mobile: 320-424-0309 >> > >> > phone calls always welcome :) >> > >> > >> > On Tue, Mar 5, 2013 at 10:04 AM, Noah Slater <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> > >> >> I would never say to someone "do not talk about CouchDB on Twitter or >> >> Google+ or your own blog." No way! But I'd like to think that the >> really >> >> important conversations are finding their way to the mailing lists. You >> >> know. If you do a blog post, or you there's a really interest >> discussion >> >> happening on StackOverflow... Share it with us here. >> >> >> >> How can we encourage this sort of activity? For things to filter back >> >> upstream to the project, where the majority of the community can see >> it? >> >> It >> >> is beneficial for both parties. The wider community finds out about >> more >> >> things going on. And the blog post, or the conversation gets more >> >> exposure, >> >> and perhaps more contributions. >> >> >> >> >> >> On 5 March 2013 15:54, Benoit Chesneau <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> >> >> > imo the more media we spread on, the better it is. >> >> > >> >> > Ayway I can understand your concern (i'm more worried to have support >> >> > done on stackoverflow instead of proper mls and jira but ...) . >> >> > >> >> > One of the good thing today in the web is that we can mashup most of >> >> > the services around in a website . I would find interesting to have >> >> > the current website reworked to display informations coming from >> >> > different sources: twitter, g+, of course ml (maybe more) and allows >> >> > people to search into that. I think it would solve your concern and >> >> > let others post on their preferred media. >> >> > >> >> > - benoît >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > On Tue, Mar 5, 2013 at 4:41 PM, Noah Slater <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >> > > Community cohesion is a big concern for me. Historically, we've >> >> struggled >> >> > > with this. And I think we could get a lot better at it. There >> should >> >> be a >> >> > > single obvious place you can go to to be a part of the community, >> and >> >> > that >> >> > > should be the project mailing lists, blog, etc. That doesn't mean >> >> there >> >> > > cannot or should not be pockets of activity in other places. But I >> am >> >> > > concerned if those pockets of activity mean that cliques are >> forming. >> >> > > Because that would be a detriment to the work we're doing here. >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > On 5 March 2013 15:36, matt j. sorenson <[email protected]> >> >> wrote: >> >> > > >> >> > >> sure, just encourage more sharing... the more the better, and stop >> >> being >> >> > >> fearful about it. you said it right yourself, if you'd just left >> it >> >> at >> >> > >> this... >> >> > >> >> >> > >> ------------------------- >> >> > >> Hey, >> >> > >> >> >> > >> Saw this post this morning: >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> https://plus.google.com/u/0/101311778896778283942/posts/iZgMeo5oGst?cfem=1 >> >> > >> >> >> > >> I think it's great that stuff is happening around CouchDB on >> Google+ >> >> > >> ------------------------- >> >> > >> >> >> > >> -- >> >> > >> *matt j. sorenson* >> >> > >> mobile: 320-424-0309 >> >> > >> >> >> > >> phone calls always welcome :) >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> On Tue, Mar 5, 2013 at 9:32 AM, Noah Slater <[email protected]> >> >> wrote: >> >> > >> >> >> > >> > Hey, >> >> > >> > >> >> > >> > Saw this post this morning: >> >> > >> > >> >> > >> > >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> https://plus.google.com/u/0/101311778896778283942/posts/iZgMeo5oGst?cfem=1 >> >> > >> > >> >> > >> > I think it's great that stuff is happening around CouchDB on >> >> Google+, >> >> > but >> >> > >> > it concerns me that news like this is posted away from the >> project >> >> > lists, >> >> > >> > and way from the project. >> >> > >> > >> >> > >> > Obviously, we can't dictate to people where they should talk >> about >> >> > >> CouchDB. >> >> > >> > But I am very concerned about us diluting our community. >> >> > >> > >> >> > >> > Thoughts on this? >> >> > >> > >> >> > >> > Thanks, >> >> > >> > >> >> > >> > -- >> >> > >> > NS >> >> > >> > >> >> > >> >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > -- >> >> > > NS >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> NS >> >> >> > >> > >> > > > > -- > NS > -- NS
