Interesting idea, Matt. Again though, I really think we should aim to involve a human being. I think if there's a tagging system, or a +1 system, that helps to surface interesting threads, then fine. But there should be a person reviewing these, and using their judgement, and knowledge of what is already happening on the list to post what seems relevant. I might add that anyone can do this! God knows, I already have enough things to do. ;)
On 11 March 2013 16:04, matt j. sorenson <[email protected]> wrote: > I think about the aggregation and curation challenge sometimes... > > and *sometimes* I even think of ways it might be made easier. I just tried > Feed+ for generating feeds from public G+ posts -- it seems to work great > for individual profiles, but failed for the Community profile. I emailed > the author (a google employee and google apps script extraordinaire) to see > about getting support in there for G+ Communities. > > if that were to become possible, then there can be a feed of posts. Maybe > there's a way to rank by the accumulated +1's (in the feed, or > post-processing). > > The feed could be > > MAPPED > > to an aggregator (I do this a lot in Drupal with feeds to import content, > but it could just be dropped into a public couch instance); and then the > newsy mailing-list worthy stuff could be quickly > > REDUCED > > by a tagging mechanism. E.g. tag share-worthy things "mailing list" and a > weekly job sniffs those out and sends them to the mailing list. It's > automated, but it's curated first. > > I'm not sure if all that hypothetical hocus pocus technology would actually > make it easier than just scanning the community once a week sending out > some interesting links :P I'm just brainstorming. > > :D > > -- > *matt j. sorenson* > > > On Sat, Mar 9, 2013 at 4:29 PM, Noah Slater <[email protected]> wrote: > > > I had a chat with Infra and they do not like automated posts to the > mailing > > list. I am going to set up some alarms for me to remind me to do weekly > > roundups. That also means I get to curate the stuff I think is important. > > > > > > On 9 March 2013 22:27, Benoit Chesneau <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > i will have a look to see if it can be automatised. If not i can > > > probably do the weekly summary. > > > > > > - benoit > > > > > > On Sat, Mar 9, 2013 at 8:31 PM, Noah Slater <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > > Benoit, > > > > > > > > As you seem to be a steward of the Google+ community, I was wondering > > > this > > > > morning if you would consider doing a weekly roundup of the activity > > > > happening over there? > > > > > > > > See my recent posts to the user list with links to StackOverflow > > > questions. > > > > > > > > Do you think this would be valuable? > > > > > > > > > > > > On 5 March 2013 20:27, Noah Slater <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > >> We are the community organisers for CouchDB. This list. Everyone > > reading > > > >> this email. > > > >> > > > >> And the ASF tools might be clunky and whatever, but we have to make > do > > > >> with them. And the ASF community guidelines dictate to us that we > must > > > keep > > > >> project activity happening on the lists where it can be seen by > > > everyone. > > > >> > > > >> These guidelines are not arbitrary either. Their goal is not to > > suppress > > > >> any discussion of a project outside of the project. Their goal is to > > > make > > > >> sure that communities do not become fractured. Which is, again, a > > > problem > > > >> that we ought to take seriously. How do we get as much of the > project > > > >> activity happening in a single place so people can follow it? > > > >> > > > >> Benoit, I think a weekly news thing is a great idea. And I've been > > > >> considering this for a few weeks now. Check out what CloudStack do. > > > It's a > > > >> weekly roundup of all the things going on on the lists, and off the > > > lists. > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > https://blogs.apache.org/cloudstack/entry/apache_cloudstack_weekly_news_11 > > > >> > > > >> I asked a few questions about how this is being put together. > Response > > > >> here: > > > >> > > > >> http://markmail.org/message/d5td5ysoxonm7lvl > > > >> > > > >> Now, who wants to take this idea and run with it? > > > >> > > > >> Matt, if you make a request to infra they might consider removing > your > > > >> mail. > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> On 5 March 2013 16:34, matt j. sorenson <[email protected]> > > wrote: > > > >> > > > >>> also - invariably i will forget to rip my phone # out of my email > sig > > > when > > > >>> responding to a publicly archived mailing list! gah! > > > >>> > > > >>> -- > > > >>> *matt * > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> On Tue, Mar 5, 2013 at 10:29 AM, matt j. sorenson < > > > [email protected] > > > >>> >wrote: > > > >>> > > > >>> > 1) community growth will happen organically (as it ought), or it > > > won't > > > >>> > happen. > > > >>> > > > > >>> > 2) I believe email is the least best "single" canonical > > destination. > > > >>> > > > > >>> > Not least of all because the mailing list and the apache web > > > interface > > > >>> to > > > >>> > the mailing list is a lousy news, information, and knowledge > > archive. > > > >>> That > > > >>> > in itself is enough of a limiting factor. > > > >>> > > > > >>> > I think Benoit's on the right track - on the website, s/Mailing > > > >>> > List/Community and build the couchdb "planet", which aggregates > the > > > >>> pockets > > > >>> > of couchdb cliques (as you refer to them) around the web as they > > > emerge > > > >>> > and/or are discovered. Then encourage more cliques and more > > sharing. > > > The > > > >>> > web decentralizes naturally and if someone thinks they can buck > > that > > > and > > > >>> > control it, it will probably do more harm than good. > > > >>> > > > > >>> > p.s. who *is* (are) the community organizer(s) for couchdb? > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > -- > > > >>> > *matt j. sorenson* > > > >>> > mobile: 320-424-0309 > > > >>> > > > > >>> > phone calls always welcome :) > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > On Tue, Mar 5, 2013 at 10:04 AM, Noah Slater <[email protected] > > > > > >>> wrote: > > > >>> > > > > >>> >> I would never say to someone "do not talk about CouchDB on > Twitter > > > or > > > >>> >> Google+ or your own blog." No way! But I'd like to think that > the > > > >>> really > > > >>> >> important conversations are finding their way to the mailing > > lists. > > > You > > > >>> >> know. If you do a blog post, or you there's a really interest > > > >>> discussion > > > >>> >> happening on StackOverflow... Share it with us here. > > > >>> >> > > > >>> >> How can we encourage this sort of activity? For things to filter > > > back > > > >>> >> upstream to the project, where the majority of the community can > > see > > > >>> it? > > > >>> >> It > > > >>> >> is beneficial for both parties. The wider community finds out > > about > > > >>> more > > > >>> >> things going on. And the blog post, or the conversation gets > more > > > >>> >> exposure, > > > >>> >> and perhaps more contributions. > > > >>> >> > > > >>> >> > > > >>> >> On 5 March 2013 15:54, Benoit Chesneau <[email protected]> > > wrote: > > > >>> >> > > > >>> >> > imo the more media we spread on, the better it is. > > > >>> >> > > > > >>> >> > Ayway I can understand your concern (i'm more worried to have > > > support > > > >>> >> > done on stackoverflow instead of proper mls and jira but ...) > . > > > >>> >> > > > > >>> >> > One of the good thing today in the web is that we can mashup > > most > > > of > > > >>> >> > the services around in a website . I would find interesting to > > > have > > > >>> >> > the current website reworked to display informations coming > from > > > >>> >> > different sources: twitter, g+, of course ml (maybe more) and > > > allows > > > >>> >> > people to search into that. I think it would solve your > concern > > > and > > > >>> >> > let others post on their preferred media. > > > >>> >> > > > > >>> >> > - benoît > > > >>> >> > > > > >>> >> > > > > >>> >> > > > > >>> >> > On Tue, Mar 5, 2013 at 4:41 PM, Noah Slater < > [email protected] > > > > > > >>> wrote: > > > >>> >> > > Community cohesion is a big concern for me. Historically, > > we've > > > >>> >> struggled > > > >>> >> > > with this. And I think we could get a lot better at it. > There > > > >>> should > > > >>> >> be a > > > >>> >> > > single obvious place you can go to to be a part of the > > > community, > > > >>> and > > > >>> >> > that > > > >>> >> > > should be the project mailing lists, blog, etc. That doesn't > > > mean > > > >>> >> there > > > >>> >> > > cannot or should not be pockets of activity in other places. > > > But I > > > >>> am > > > >>> >> > > concerned if those pockets of activity mean that cliques are > > > >>> forming. > > > >>> >> > > Because that would be a detriment to the work we're doing > > here. > > > >>> >> > > > > > >>> >> > > > > > >>> >> > > On 5 March 2013 15:36, matt j. sorenson < > > [email protected]> > > > >>> >> wrote: > > > >>> >> > > > > > >>> >> > >> sure, just encourage more sharing... the more the better, > and > > > stop > > > >>> >> being > > > >>> >> > >> fearful about it. you said it right yourself, if you'd just > > > left > > > >>> it > > > >>> >> at > > > >>> >> > >> this... > > > >>> >> > >> > > > >>> >> > >> ------------------------- > > > >>> >> > >> Hey, > > > >>> >> > >> > > > >>> >> > >> Saw this post this morning: > > > >>> >> > >> > > > >>> >> > >> > > > >>> >> > > > > >>> >> > > > >>> > > > > > > https://plus.google.com/u/0/101311778896778283942/posts/iZgMeo5oGst?cfem=1 > > > >>> >> > >> > > > >>> >> > >> I think it's great that stuff is happening around CouchDB > on > > > >>> Google+ > > > >>> >> > >> ------------------------- > > > >>> >> > >> > > > >>> >> > >> -- > > > >>> >> > >> *matt j. sorenson* > > > >>> >> > >> mobile: 320-424-0309 > > > >>> >> > >> > > > >>> >> > >> phone calls always welcome :) > > > >>> >> > >> > > > >>> >> > >> > > > >>> >> > >> On Tue, Mar 5, 2013 at 9:32 AM, Noah Slater < > > > [email protected]> > > > >>> >> wrote: > > > >>> >> > >> > > > >>> >> > >> > Hey, > > > >>> >> > >> > > > > >>> >> > >> > Saw this post this morning: > > > >>> >> > >> > > > > >>> >> > >> > > > > >>> >> > >> > > > >>> >> > > > > >>> >> > > > >>> > > > > > > https://plus.google.com/u/0/101311778896778283942/posts/iZgMeo5oGst?cfem=1 > > > >>> >> > >> > > > > >>> >> > >> > I think it's great that stuff is happening around CouchDB > > on > > > >>> >> Google+, > > > >>> >> > but > > > >>> >> > >> > it concerns me that news like this is posted away from > the > > > >>> project > > > >>> >> > lists, > > > >>> >> > >> > and way from the project. > > > >>> >> > >> > > > > >>> >> > >> > Obviously, we can't dictate to people where they should > > talk > > > >>> about > > > >>> >> > >> CouchDB. > > > >>> >> > >> > But I am very concerned about us diluting our community. > > > >>> >> > >> > > > > >>> >> > >> > Thoughts on this? > > > >>> >> > >> > > > > >>> >> > >> > Thanks, > > > >>> >> > >> > > > > >>> >> > >> > -- > > > >>> >> > >> > NS > > > >>> >> > >> > > > > >>> >> > >> > > > >>> >> > > > > > >>> >> > > > > > >>> >> > > > > > >>> >> > > -- > > > >>> >> > > NS > > > >>> >> > > > > >>> >> > > > >>> >> > > > >>> >> > > > >>> >> -- > > > >>> >> NS > > > >>> >> > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> -- > > > >> NS > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > NS > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > NS > > > -- NS
