i will have a look to see if it can be automatised. If not i can probably do the weekly summary.
- benoit On Sat, Mar 9, 2013 at 8:31 PM, Noah Slater <[email protected]> wrote: > Benoit, > > As you seem to be a steward of the Google+ community, I was wondering this > morning if you would consider doing a weekly roundup of the activity > happening over there? > > See my recent posts to the user list with links to StackOverflow questions. > > Do you think this would be valuable? > > > On 5 March 2013 20:27, Noah Slater <[email protected]> wrote: > >> We are the community organisers for CouchDB. This list. Everyone reading >> this email. >> >> And the ASF tools might be clunky and whatever, but we have to make do >> with them. And the ASF community guidelines dictate to us that we must keep >> project activity happening on the lists where it can be seen by everyone. >> >> These guidelines are not arbitrary either. Their goal is not to suppress >> any discussion of a project outside of the project. Their goal is to make >> sure that communities do not become fractured. Which is, again, a problem >> that we ought to take seriously. How do we get as much of the project >> activity happening in a single place so people can follow it? >> >> Benoit, I think a weekly news thing is a great idea. And I've been >> considering this for a few weeks now. Check out what CloudStack do. It's a >> weekly roundup of all the things going on on the lists, and off the lists. >> >> https://blogs.apache.org/cloudstack/entry/apache_cloudstack_weekly_news_11 >> >> I asked a few questions about how this is being put together. Response >> here: >> >> http://markmail.org/message/d5td5ysoxonm7lvl >> >> Now, who wants to take this idea and run with it? >> >> Matt, if you make a request to infra they might consider removing your >> mail. >> >> >> On 5 March 2013 16:34, matt j. sorenson <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> also - invariably i will forget to rip my phone # out of my email sig when >>> responding to a publicly archived mailing list! gah! >>> >>> -- >>> *matt * >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Mar 5, 2013 at 10:29 AM, matt j. sorenson <[email protected] >>> >wrote: >>> >>> > 1) community growth will happen organically (as it ought), or it won't >>> > happen. >>> > >>> > 2) I believe email is the least best "single" canonical destination. >>> > >>> > Not least of all because the mailing list and the apache web interface >>> to >>> > the mailing list is a lousy news, information, and knowledge archive. >>> That >>> > in itself is enough of a limiting factor. >>> > >>> > I think Benoit's on the right track - on the website, s/Mailing >>> > List/Community and build the couchdb "planet", which aggregates the >>> pockets >>> > of couchdb cliques (as you refer to them) around the web as they emerge >>> > and/or are discovered. Then encourage more cliques and more sharing. The >>> > web decentralizes naturally and if someone thinks they can buck that and >>> > control it, it will probably do more harm than good. >>> > >>> > p.s. who *is* (are) the community organizer(s) for couchdb? >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > -- >>> > *matt j. sorenson* >>> > mobile: 320-424-0309 >>> > >>> > phone calls always welcome :) >>> > >>> > >>> > On Tue, Mar 5, 2013 at 10:04 AM, Noah Slater <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> > >>> >> I would never say to someone "do not talk about CouchDB on Twitter or >>> >> Google+ or your own blog." No way! But I'd like to think that the >>> really >>> >> important conversations are finding their way to the mailing lists. You >>> >> know. If you do a blog post, or you there's a really interest >>> discussion >>> >> happening on StackOverflow... Share it with us here. >>> >> >>> >> How can we encourage this sort of activity? For things to filter back >>> >> upstream to the project, where the majority of the community can see >>> it? >>> >> It >>> >> is beneficial for both parties. The wider community finds out about >>> more >>> >> things going on. And the blog post, or the conversation gets more >>> >> exposure, >>> >> and perhaps more contributions. >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> On 5 March 2013 15:54, Benoit Chesneau <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >> >>> >> > imo the more media we spread on, the better it is. >>> >> > >>> >> > Ayway I can understand your concern (i'm more worried to have support >>> >> > done on stackoverflow instead of proper mls and jira but ...) . >>> >> > >>> >> > One of the good thing today in the web is that we can mashup most of >>> >> > the services around in a website . I would find interesting to have >>> >> > the current website reworked to display informations coming from >>> >> > different sources: twitter, g+, of course ml (maybe more) and allows >>> >> > people to search into that. I think it would solve your concern and >>> >> > let others post on their preferred media. >>> >> > >>> >> > - benoît >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > On Tue, Mar 5, 2013 at 4:41 PM, Noah Slater <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >> > > Community cohesion is a big concern for me. Historically, we've >>> >> struggled >>> >> > > with this. And I think we could get a lot better at it. There >>> should >>> >> be a >>> >> > > single obvious place you can go to to be a part of the community, >>> and >>> >> > that >>> >> > > should be the project mailing lists, blog, etc. That doesn't mean >>> >> there >>> >> > > cannot or should not be pockets of activity in other places. But I >>> am >>> >> > > concerned if those pockets of activity mean that cliques are >>> forming. >>> >> > > Because that would be a detriment to the work we're doing here. >>> >> > > >>> >> > > >>> >> > > On 5 March 2013 15:36, matt j. sorenson <[email protected]> >>> >> wrote: >>> >> > > >>> >> > >> sure, just encourage more sharing... the more the better, and stop >>> >> being >>> >> > >> fearful about it. you said it right yourself, if you'd just left >>> it >>> >> at >>> >> > >> this... >>> >> > >> >>> >> > >> ------------------------- >>> >> > >> Hey, >>> >> > >> >>> >> > >> Saw this post this morning: >>> >> > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> > >>> >> >>> https://plus.google.com/u/0/101311778896778283942/posts/iZgMeo5oGst?cfem=1 >>> >> > >> >>> >> > >> I think it's great that stuff is happening around CouchDB on >>> Google+ >>> >> > >> ------------------------- >>> >> > >> >>> >> > >> -- >>> >> > >> *matt j. sorenson* >>> >> > >> mobile: 320-424-0309 >>> >> > >> >>> >> > >> phone calls always welcome :) >>> >> > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> > >> On Tue, Mar 5, 2013 at 9:32 AM, Noah Slater <[email protected]> >>> >> wrote: >>> >> > >> >>> >> > >> > Hey, >>> >> > >> > >>> >> > >> > Saw this post this morning: >>> >> > >> > >>> >> > >> > >>> >> > >> >>> >> > >>> >> >>> https://plus.google.com/u/0/101311778896778283942/posts/iZgMeo5oGst?cfem=1 >>> >> > >> > >>> >> > >> > I think it's great that stuff is happening around CouchDB on >>> >> Google+, >>> >> > but >>> >> > >> > it concerns me that news like this is posted away from the >>> project >>> >> > lists, >>> >> > >> > and way from the project. >>> >> > >> > >>> >> > >> > Obviously, we can't dictate to people where they should talk >>> about >>> >> > >> CouchDB. >>> >> > >> > But I am very concerned about us diluting our community. >>> >> > >> > >>> >> > >> > Thoughts on this? >>> >> > >> > >>> >> > >> > Thanks, >>> >> > >> > >>> >> > >> > -- >>> >> > >> > NS >>> >> > >> > >>> >> > >> >>> >> > > >>> >> > > >>> >> > > >>> >> > > -- >>> >> > > NS >>> >> > >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> -- >>> >> NS >>> >> >>> > >>> > >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> NS >> > > > > -- > NS
