That said :-), even with this extremely small time window I'm getting log warnings. I guess it's due to a nature of my tests. I have contol threads waiting in the application code which do continuation.resume() as soon as they're notified that continuation.suspend() has occured.

I have 10 threads involved, 5 control ones + 5 application ones, I see a loss 
of message approximately once in 5 cases.
The fact that cont.resume() is done virtually immediately after cont.suspend() 
can explain it.

Cheers, Sergey

That said, I'm now trying to inject a message as a custom continuation object (while preserving the original one if any, both ways) as early as possible, in AbstractInvoker, so the time window at which the race condition I talked about earlier can cause the loss of the original message, is extremely small the time it taked for the continuation.suspend() exception to reach a catch block in AbstractInvoker.

Cheers, Sergey

Hi,

I did some system testing with Jetty continuations and it's going not too bad.
Here's one issue which I've encountered which might or might not be a problem in cases where continuations are ustilized directly (that is without our wrappers), as in case of say ServiceMix CXF binding component.

The problem is that when continuation.suspend(timeout) has been called, a resulting RuntimeException might not reach CXF JettyDestination (such that the original message with its phase chain can be preserved until the request is resumed) if some other application thread calls continuation.resume() or continuation suspend timeout expires.

In case of ServiceMix the latter is a theoretical possibility at the least. I can see in its code this timeout is configured, but if this timeout is in the region of up to 1 sec or so then it's feasible that with a heavy workload the race condition described above might come to life.

That said, as part of my test, I found that even when such condition occurs, the 'worst' thing which can happen is that a new message and a new chain are created, that is, the request is not resumed from a 'suspended' ServiceInvokerInterceptor, but starts as if it was a new request alltogether, but it all works nonetheless, as all the stack variables used in various interceptors in my given test at least are all obtained from a message. The only downside is that that the work which has already been done earlier as part of handling the suspended request is repeated again by the interceptors. It can cause issues though in cases when some interceptors have sideeffects as part of handling a given input request, say modify a db, etc

Now, this race condition can be safely avoided if a wrapper proposed by Dan is used by a server application code as the message can be preserved immediately at a point a user calls suspend on our wrapper, so without further doubts I've prototyped it too. It's not possible for SMX components though

Comments ?

Cheers, Sergey


I guess my thinking was to tie the continutations directly to the
PhaseInterceptorChain (since that is going to need to know about them
anyway).   However, I suppose it could easily be done with a new interface.
Probably the best thing to do is to stub out a sample usecase.   So here
goes.....

Lets take a "GreetMe" web service that in the greetMe method will call off
asynchrously to some JMS service to actually get the result.

@Resource(name = "jmsClient")
Greeter jmsGreeter
@Resource
WebServiceContext context;
public String greetMe(String arg) {
    ContinuationSupport contSupport = (ContinuationSupport)
             context.get(ContinuationSupport.class.getName());
    if (contSupport == null) {
         //continuations not supported, must wait
         return jmsGreeter.greetMe(arg);
    }
    Continuation cont = contSupport.getContinuation();
    if (cont.isResumed()) {
AsyncHandler<GreetMeResponse> handler = cont.getObject();
       return handler.get().getReturn();
    } else {
        AsyncHandler<GreetMeResponse> handler = new Handler(cont);
        jmsGreeter.greetMeAsync(arg, handler);
        cont.suspend(handler);
return null;   //won't actually get here as suspend will throw a
ContinuationException
    }
}

The Handler would look something like:
class Handler implements AsyncHandler<GreetMeResponse> {
GreetMeResponse resp;
       Continuation cont;
public Handler(Continuation cont) {
           this.cont = cont;
       }
       public void handleResponse(Response<GreetMeLaterResponse> response) {
             resp = response.get();
             cont.resume();
      }
}

Basically, the HTTP/Jetty transport could provide an implementation of
ContinuationSupport that wrappers the jetty stuff.    JMS could provide one
that's pretty much a null op.   Transports that cannot support it (like
servlet) just wouldn't provide an implementation.


Does that make sense?   Other ideas?

Dan




On Friday 24 October 2008 9:58:08 am Sergey Beryozkin wrote:
> No.   We don't want that.   Whatever we do should work for other
> transports as well like JMS.  Thus, this shouldn't be tied to jetty
> continuations directly.

No, I'm not suggesting to tie it up to jetty continuations.
Ex.

try {
  invoke(); // continuation.suspend() somehow by the code being invoked
upon }
catch (RuntimeException ex) {

if (ex.getClass().getName().equals("jetty.JettyContinuationException"))
    throw new SuspendedFault(ex);
    // or PhaseInterceptorChain.suspend()
}
}

> Most likely, we could add a "suspend()" method to PhaseInterceptorChain
> that would do something very similar and throw a "SuspendException" or
> something in the same package as PhaseInterceptorChain.

When do we trigger this PhaseInterceptorChain.suspend() call though ?

>   That would get propogated
> back to the JettyDestination that could then call the jetty things.   The
> JMS transport could just catch it and more or less ignore it.    We'd
> then have to add a "resume()" method to the chain which would call back
> onto a listener that the transport provides.   Jetty would just call the
> jetty resume stuff. JMS would probably put a runnable on the workqueue to
> restart the chain.

ok

> Also, suspend() would need to check if there is a listener.  If not, it
> should not throw the exception.   Thus, the servlet transport and CORBA
> stuff that couldn't do this would pretty much just ignore it.

ok, not sure I understand about the listener but I think I see what you
mean...

> Basically, this needs to be done in such a way that it CAN work for the
> non-jetty cases.   However, it also needs to be done in a way that
> doesn't affect existing transports.

+1

Cheers, Sergey

> Dan
>
>> 2. Now, if the above can be figured out, the next problem arises: when
>> the "trigger" to wake up the continuation occurs
>>
>> I think we can can do in JettyDestination omething similar to what is
>> done in SMX. When getting a SuspendedFault exception, we can extract
>> from it the original continuation instance or else we can do
>> ContinuationSupport.getContinuation(request) which should return us the
>> instance. At this point we can use it as a ket to store the current
>> exchange plus all the other info we may need.
>>
>> When the user/application code does continuation.resume(), the Jetty
>> thread will come back and we will use the
>> ContinuationSupport.getContinuation(request) to get us the active
>> continuation and use it to extract the suspended exchange and proceed
>> from there, say we'll call PhaseInterceptorPhase.resume(), etc,
>> something along the lines you suggested
>>
>>
>> 3. Basically, to do this "right", we'd need to audit pretty much
>> everything to make sure nothing is stored on the stack and is
>> "resumable". Once that is done, the rest is relatively easy.
>>
>> Yea - probably can be the quite challenging
>>
>>
>> Thoughts ?
>>
>> Cheers, Sergey
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> [1] http://docs.codehaus.org/display/JETTY/Continuations
>> [2] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CXF-1835
>> [3]
>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CXF-1835?focusedCommentId=12642361
>>#ac tion_12642361
>
> --
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> http://dankulp.com/blog



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