On Sep 23, 2008, at 11:59 AM, Felix Knecht wrote:

David Jencks schrieb:

On Sep 23, 2008, at 10:40 AM, Pierre-Arnaud Marcelot wrote:

On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 7:21 PM, Felix Knecht <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote:

   Well, here's an idea let us see if we can adapt/configure it for
   our needs:

   Put the *help modules into a separate profile and have it
   activated by ? (see [1]). We just need to find an appropriate
   activator which fits our needs. We can have e.g. such a timestamp
   file (exist or not) to activate to 'help' profile. The
   question is just 'How to figure out if something has changed?".
   One possibility could be that we create such a file when doing a
   build and only delete it when running a new build
   including the 'clean' goal -> adapt the clean goal configuration
   in such a way that it deletes the timestamp file.
   The timestamp file needs to be added to svn:ignore and it's
   location can/should be in the *help modules root directory.

   As said, just an idea. Maybe there are better solutions.


I must have catch the Maven way of thinking, because I was thinking
about something pretty similar... Hehe.

A special profile that gets triggered when we want, or based on a
condition (a file existing [or not] somewhere).

We'll see that after I'm done with the Manifests. ;)


In general the fact that a module hasn't changed doesn't mean it will
build: the stuff it depends on might have changed to break it. Thus I
think CI builds should be complete builds of everything.

There's been activity recently in maven on enabling dependency based
partial builds.  IIUC most of this will be in maven 2.1-M2 (it's
apparently in trunk) and there's a plugin for earlier mavens. I haven't tried it personally yet.... the first experiment I made didn't work and
I didn't poke very hard to find out what was wrong.

http://maven.apache.org/plugins/maven-reactor-plugin/

At first glance I don't see how the reactor plugin could help us. We have submodules which should be built only if there
are any file changes in the specific submodule-

I probably don't understand the problem you are trying to solve. I thought the way one would typically use the reactor plugin was,
- I know I changed something in module X
- I want to see what breaks as a result
- so I start the build at X and build all the modules that depend on it.

This seems like what you are describing so I'm probably missing the important point in your situation :-)

thanks
david jencks



Regards
Felix


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