And here:

    https://www.apache.org/foundation/governance/

    "Note that the ASF does not pay for software development on any Apache 
projects"

I could go on...

On 2019/06/27 19:02:22, Jim Jagielski <[email protected]> wrote: 
> Oops... and Justin:> 
> 
>     
> https://www.erenkrantz.com/apachecon/SCALE%208x%20-%20No%20Jerks%20Allowed.pdf>
>  
> 
> I could give several more but playing fetch me a rock is tiring, eso when the 
> goalposts constantly change. > 
> 
> o+o> 
> 
> On 2019/06/27 18:45:33, Jim Jagielski <[email protected]> wrote: > 
> > Not sure how you can say that considering the links I showed. Are you 
> > saying that I, and Ross, and Dirk, and Greg, and Brett, and Phil, and 
> > Shane, and et.al.... are all mistaken? How many more do you need?... Heck, 
> > it's even in a press release:> 
> > > 
> >     
> > https://www.globenewswire.com/news-release/2019/03/26/1767348/0/en/The-Apache-Software-Foundation-Celebrates-20-Years-of-Community-led-Development-The-Apache-Way.html>
> >  
> > > 
> >    "The ASF does not pay for development: thousands of committed 
> > individuals help make a difference to the lives of billions of people by 
> > ensuring that Apache software remains accessible to all."> 
> > > 
> > How about:> 
> > > 
> >     https://community.apache.org/newbiefaq.html> 
> > > 
> >     https://medium.com/@shanecurcuru/how-apache-really-works-995a091a72d3> 
> > > 
> >     https://www.apache.org/foundation/how-it-works.html> 
> > > 
> > It is clear as day, except for those who find it convenient to ignore it or 
> > "blur" it.> 
> > > 
> > On 2019/06/27 18:18:31, Sam Ruby <[email protected]> wrote: > 
> > > On Thu, Jun 27, 2019 at 2:10 PM Jim Jagielski <[email protected]> wrote:> 
> > > [snip]> 
> > > > 
> > > I'll just note that the new subject line is factually incorrect.  What> 
> > > is correct is considerably more nuanced, and perhaps not widely> 
> > > understood.> 
> > > > 
> > > - Sam Ruby> 
> > > > 
> > > 
> 

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