I've spent a bit of time looking into the Outreachy process and I'd like to 
summarize my understanding:

1. Pre-application: Communities choose prospective mentors to work with 
prospective interns. Apache communities who wish to participate must provide 
suitable mentors.

2. Application: Prospective interns select projects and work with mentors to 
make contributions to projects. 

3. Selection: Communities review applicants and choose those whose 
contributions indicate they will make good interns.

4. Internship period: Interns work full time for three months with the 
mutually-selected communities.

5. Program reviews: Interns evaluate mentors and communities; mentors and 
communities evaluate interns.

What does Apache get from this? 

During pre-application, identifying suitable mentors may help communities 
understand themselves better. 

During application, communities may get feedback on barriers to entry that 
under-represented people face. 

All of this is without $payment to/from Apache/Outreachy.

During internship, projects get more detail on how the community enables 
contributions from under-represented people, and get some code 
(programming/doc/ux/build/release) contributions. 

During program reviews, communities get feedback on how to reduce barriers to 
entry and how to increase/encourage participation.

Given the D&I objectives for this program, I'd say that code is a byproduct and 
not the deliverable. 

If the objective of the program were code deliverables, this process would be 
completely different. And we would certainly pay folks more than $10/hour for 
their contributions. 

Craig

> On Jun 20, 2019, at 11:36 PM, Awasum Yannick <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Paying for Outreachy means we are paying for D&I. Code is a byproduct.
> Given generally the bar at Outreachy is so low.
> 
> The question now should be: is D&I really important enough for us to pay
> for? I will say yes.
> 
> Is paying for D&I a bad thing?
> 
> 

Craig L Russell
[email protected]

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