On Sat, Jun 29, 2019 at 9:10 AM Jim Jagielski <[email protected]> wrote: > > On 2019/06/29 11:50:38, Sam Ruby <[email protected]> wrote: > > On Sat, Jun 29, 2019 at 4:05 AM Dirk-Willem van Gulik > A handful of interns for a > > few months as an experiment isn't going to destroy the foundation. > > > > The experiment may fail. Even if it does, we will have learned > > something. We don't do it again, and next time we try something > > different. > > Simply classifying something as a test, or experiment, and then saying that > it isn’t going to destroy the foundation somehow needs to be justified.
We have a diversity problem. The committee has recommended this as a next step towards addressing that problem. > Here is an example: one core principle I have with my wife Eileen is that I > will be faithful. If I then say that I want to have a little fling with > someone, just a little one night stand, as an experiment, and c’mon it’s not > going to destroy our marriage, do you think I’d have a shot?? Probably not. > Apples and oranges? Maybe. But tell me, what are guiding principles, what are > core tenets, for anyway? Did we allow Sun to get away with a little > experiment where FOU restrictions were allowed? No. We held to our guns. Some > may see that as stifling. I see it as earning and warranting respect. The ASF > stands for something. Personally, I think that is a virtuous thing that > should be protected. Each of those cases are different. We also had lengthy and at times heated discussions about hiring staff, whether or not we should accept targeted donations or allow git as a version control system. And in many cases we made difficult decisions in the face of people shouting FIRST PRINCIPLES. I ask that you give this committee a chance to develop and present its recommendation to the board, and give the board a chance to evaluate that recommendation. - Sam Ruby
