+1 on everything except the monies and sponsors mention.  That's
Fundraising's bailiwick.   I would strike "If D&I finds funding for more
than 3 interns, we intend to accept it, but we plan to keep the initial
rounds of this project relatively small for learning purposes."

If you really want to mention it, I would change it to D&I will ask
Fundraising to find sponsorship for up to 3 more interns.

I would also add concrete terms if you can.  This is expected to happen
in "specific month".  Will report monthly. etc.

On 7/1/2019 10:56 AM, Ross Gardler wrote:
> Looks good to me but I wonder if you should totally avoid the money issue.
>
> D&I is not doing this because a sponsor exists. We are doing this because 
> Outreachy exists and we'd like the ASF to be able to participate.
>
> Phrases that mention money muddy the waters. For example "If D&I finds 
> funding for more than 3 interns, we intend to accept it," implies D&I will 
> seek funds. But that's not, as I understand it, the intent. I suggest this 
> phrase be replaced by "if Outreachy is able to offer more than 3 interns we 
> intend to attempt to match them with mentors."
>
> Similar rewording of all mentions of funding should make the proposal more 
> palatable.
>
> Ross
>
> Get Outlook for Android<https://aka.ms/ghei36>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Swapnil M Mane <[email protected]>
> Sent: Monday, July 1, 2019 4:51:02 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Notify the board that D&I intends to coordinate an 
> Outreachy intern program
>
> Thank you Myrle, the draft looks good to me.
>
>
> - Best Regards,
> Swapnil M Mane
>
> On Mon, Jul 1, 2019 at 1:43 PM Myrle Krantz <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Hey all,
>>
>> We've already discussed the finer points and alternatives here.  But we
>> need a concrete proposal.  And because we are talking about pre-selecting
>> proposals and interacting with other projects, I want us to give the board
>> a heads up.  I'd like to suggest that we provide the notification below to
>> the board.
>>
>> As always, patches welcome.  But warning: I'll *scream* if anyone mentions
>> 'core tenant' or 'first principle' one more time. (Here's my scream for my
>> own mention: AAAAH! ; o)
>>
>> Best Regards,
>> Myrle  Krantz
>> D&I n00b
>>
>> -----------------
>> Subject: [NOTICE] D&I intends to coordinate an Outreachy intern program.
>>
>> Background: D&I has been approached by a potential sponsor who wishes to
>> support the participation of Outreachy in ASF projects by donating directly
>> to Outreachy.  D&I wishes to perform UX research on the experience of
>> members of underrepresented groups as they get started with our
>> communities.  This offer provides us with an excellent opportunity to do
>> so.
>>
>> Currently offered funding levels are enough to cover 3 interns.  D&I plans
>> to accept this offer, and provide the following support:
>>
>> * Advertise this opportunity to projects and seek proposals.
>> * Manage the project submission process to Outreachy, including filtering
>> out unsuitable project proposals, and, if necessary, making a final
>> selection of intern-project pairs.
>> * Ask interns for feedback on their experiences at various times throughout
>> the internship.
>> * Provide appropriate and useful feedback to the Foundation and to the
>> projects about opportunities to improve how welcoming we are, and what we
>> can improve on.
>> * Use this as an opportunity to increase awareness and acceptance of the
>> ASF in communities which we are currently not reaching as well as we would
>> like.
>>
>> If D&I finds funding for more than 3 interns, we intend to accept it, but
>> we plan to keep the initial rounds of this project relatively small for
>> learning purposes.
>>
>> -----------------
>> The road ahead on this proposal is as follows (** indicates where we are
>> now):
>>  * Start a [DISCUSS] thread.
>> ** Allow the discussion to run as long as *new* points are being made.
>>  * Start a [VOTE] thread to run for 72 hours.
>>  * Submit a [NOTICE] to the board.
>>  * Wait 72 hours for potential board objections.
>>  * Get to work.
>>

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