On 7/3/2019 8:26 AM, Naomi S wrote:
> splitting this off to keep Myrle's thread on topic
+1 way too much thread hijacking.  Please follow Naomi's example and
fork the threads.
> On Wed, 3 Jul 2019 at 13:49, Sam Ruby <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> We have the technology (via STeVe) to have a non-binding poll the
>> membership.  We will have an election coming up in March-ish 2020.
>> The decision to fund interns from ASF funds is a binary one.
>>
>> My sense is that the board has been asked to make a difficult
>> decision, and is not ready yet to do so.  We however have a path
>> forward that will give us more data, and we can put in place a plan to
>> poll the membership for guidance on the matter.  We can ask those that
>> wish to do so to prepare a position paper (one each, pro and con) that
>> can guide the membership in casting their votes.
>>
> this sounds like a good idea to me
>
> I wouldn't' necessarily set March as the deadline. as a committee, we might
> not feel ready to make that move at that point. depends what our experience
> is like with Outreachy and what sorts of results we can show
>
> but in general, this seems like a reasonable way forward, should the
> committee decide that we want to pursue this avenue once again with a bit
> more experience under our belt
>
Sorry but I am -1000.  This is a very bad idea.  Off the cuff, here are
some of my negatives:

- It sets up the precedence that every hard decision will wait a year
for a member referendum

- It insults the sitting board that they can't make a tough decision.

- It infers the need to circumvent a possible negative board decisions
and instead go to the members to "overrule" them either retro- or
proactively.

- In the lawyer world there is a quote, never ask a question you don't
know the answer to.  This is a massive gamble.

- I predict this particular topic of effectively paying for code will
create partisan divisions with our members who are likely to vehemently
disagree/agree

But that said, I agree this would be a great question to add to the
voluntary board candidate questionnaire for next year.

Regards,

KAM


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