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On Mon, Nov 6, 2023 at 9:53 PM Gláucia Esppenchutz <g.esp...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Hi Jarek,
>
> Thank you for the response, and I apology for the late reply.
>
> for example we could add "Project X is
> > doing it for years, if you want to see effect of it - here is the link,
> and
> > you can go talk to them - for example on devlist or on #issue-triage
> > channel on their slack etc. ). Happy to add such links to the wiki if you
> > think it is a good idea. Those projects might get "mentoring" or rather
> > "lead by example" function in the process.
>
>
> I would appreciate it if you add the links and any other thoughts here.
> Feel free to do it; this is live documentation!
>
>
> Also it might be worth mentioning that for those projects (so pretty much
> > everyone) that use Github, the "good first issue" is already part of the
> > Github Ecosystem and tagging issues with "good first issue" label taps
> into
> > to that.
>
> I will add this info to the wiki!
>
> I am glad I addressed the relevance of this initiative in the wiki; this
> was my main concern.
> Now that I have finished most of my Master's activities, I will come back
> to this subject.
>
> Team, please let me know if anyone also has any considerations.
>
> Best
> Gláucia
>
> Em qua., 1 de nov. de 2023 às 23:31, Jarek Potiuk <ja...@potiuk.com>
> escreveu:
>
> > I think it's a good idea to encourage other projects. I read the page and
> > it very well describes the effects such tags might have (from our
> > experience)
> >
> > One proposal - I have not seen how projects that are already doing it
> might
> > be used as "good examples" - but I think we will be happy to share our
> > (good) experiences - and it might be a good thing to refer to some other
> > projects whe are already doing it - for example we could add "Project X
> is
> > doing it for years, if you want to see effect of it - here is the link,
> and
> > you can go talk to them - for example on devlist or on #issue-triage
> > channel on their slack etc. ). Happy to add such links to the wiki if you
> > think it is a good idea. Those projects might get "mentoring" or rather
> > "lead by example" function in the process.
> >
> > For example I know that most of the projects from the "data engineering"
> > area that are close to us already follow that:  Apache Airflow, Apache
> > Beam, Apache Superset, Apache Iceberg - are all actively marking issues
> as
> > "good first issues" during their triaging.
> > I don't speak for others but our experience is very positive - people are
> > actually actively looking and "grabbing" such "good first issues" - we
> also
> > use them during our contribution workshops and in talks when we are
> > encouraging people to contribute.
> >
> > Also it might be worth mentioning that for those projects (so pretty much
> > everyone) that use Github, the "good first issue" is already part of the
> > Github Ecosystem and tagging issues with "good first issue" label taps
> into
> > to that. This is also why it is part of the standard process of triaging
> > issues by a number of projects. it is also is supported and encouraged by
> > Github in their "Building Communities" documentations -
> >
> >
> https://docs.github.com/en/communities/setting-up-your-project-for-healthy-contributions/encouraging-helpful-contributions-to-your-project-with-labels
> > .
> > So it's worth to be aware that we are not reinventing the wheel and
> opening
> > doors, but rather we are telling our projects how they can tap into even
> > bigger ecosystem that is already there.
> >
> > So it's not just a "label" - it also makes the issues automatically
> > discoverable and surfaced by other mechanisms that already understand
> that
> > "good first issue" is the way by which projects mark issues as - indeed -
> > good first issues to contribute as a GitHub standard.
> >
> > For example all issues marked this way automatically land in the "
> > *contribute*" page of the project. This page has links to contribution
> > guidelines if projects have them and are often referred to by any sites
> > that have advice for people to start contributing. And the more projects
> > will start using it, the more "obvious" it will be for contributors that
> > they can use it. It might be even worth it to see how many projects
> already
> > follow it. Here are the pages from the projects I mentioned
> >
> > * https://github.com/apache/beam/contribute
> > * https://github.com/apache/airflow/contribute
> > * https://github.com/apache/superset/contribute
> > * https://github.com/apache/iceberg/contribute
> >
> > Those page also contain a nice explanation and encouragement explaining
> > what it is all about:
> >
> > > Make your first contribution to this repository by tackling one of the
> > issues listed below.
> > > Read the contributing guidelines
> > > Each issue displayed here is a "good first issue," selected for its
> > relative approachability for first-time contributors.
> >
> > J,
> >
> > On Wed, Nov 1, 2023 at 11:36 PM Gláucia Esppenchutz <
> glauesp...@apache.org
> > >
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Hi everyone!
> > >
> > > In the last BoF, we discussed the possibility of creating and
> assigning a
> > > "good first issue" to some Apache projects and attracting newcomers.
> > > I made a small wiki page with this topic, covering the motivation, the
> > > objective, and how we can start it.
> > > You can find it here:
> > >
> >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=278465058
> > >
> > > Please let me know what you think.
> > > I will start doing some research on the Apache reports to try to
> identify
> > > potential participants.
> > > I believe one of the incubator projects (Wayang) might be already
> > > interested, but let me know if they can participate.
> > > Have a lovely evening!
> > >
> > > Gláucia
> > >
> >
>
>
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> Gláucia Esppenchutz
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