Hi,

> But it is a different story for Dubbo users.

You should be asking the users to use the mailing list as well. Users become 
contributors become committers.

> What I am worrying is where we could group them all together in one single 
> place.

If the user traffic gets too large for this list then you can make a seperate 
users@dubbo mailing list

> People need a place to know each other, to learn from each other, to talk 
> about Dubbo. Dubbo users
> keep asking us what WeChat group we are maintaining for Dubbo.

If they are just chatting about the project that fine but think of this 
scenario. A user asks a question and it gets a good answer, the answer could 
help out users who haven't asked it but are following the conversation, if it 
archived in the mailing list [1] it can help future users who can search for 
that answer. On some chat application that may not be open to everyone or not 
archives the answer is lost. Or worse the content placed on it may not be 
licensed in a way that is open for all to use.

Also being a mailing list people tend to think a little more about their 
replies and you get higher quality bandwidth, there’s a little less incidental 
chatter about pets and the weather.

> This is a dilemma we are facing today. I believe the fact of IM getting
> popular happens too in Western

Just because it popular doesn’t mean we use it at the ASF. It also has to fit 
in with our values of openness and transparency for instance.

> With regarding to Dubbo contributors, they have need of casual tech talk
> too. If there's no place allowed, then the tech talk will not happen at
> all. 

I think that sort of conversation should be happening on the mailing list. It 
not that it’s not allowed it just that if conversations are happening elsewhere 
the community isn’t going to grow and attract new committers as fast as it 
could.

> Last but not least, today's traffic in this mailing list is pretty low
> since Dubbo contributors contribute the vast majority.

Which I have listed as a (minor) concern in the current report to the board.

> I really interested to learn any success story to attract users into a 
> mailing list, especially
> for the peoples who are not native English speakers.

And the language barrier is a difficult issue. I think it find to not post in 
English with a google (or other) translation so everyone has some idea of what 
is being said. That being said a large number of Apache project have people who 
are not native English speakers and it generally works. We get commits from all 
over the world all the time. (There’s a web site showing commits by location I 
see if I can find it.)

Thanks,
Justin

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