Then let's think further how we can attract users to use mailing list. Any
idea on this?

On Fri, Sep 7, 2018 at 4:24 PM Justin Mclean <[email protected]>
wrote:

> Hi,
>
> > But it is a different story for Dubbo users.
>
> You should be asking the users to use the mailing list as well. Users
> become contributors become committers.
>
> > What I am worrying is where we could group them all together in one
> single place.
>
> If the user traffic gets too large for this list then you can make a
> seperate users@dubbo mailing list
>
> > People need a place to know each other, to learn from each other, to
> talk about Dubbo. Dubbo users
> > keep asking us what WeChat group we are maintaining for Dubbo.
>
> If they are just chatting about the project that fine but think of this
> scenario. A user asks a question and it gets a good answer, the answer
> could help out users who haven't asked it but are following the
> conversation, if it archived in the mailing list [1] it can help future
> users who can search for that answer. On some chat application that may not
> be open to everyone or not archives the answer is lost. Or worse the
> content placed on it may not be licensed in a way that is open for all to
> use.
>
> Also being a mailing list people tend to think a little more about their
> replies and you get higher quality bandwidth, there’s a little less
> incidental chatter about pets and the weather.
>
> > This is a dilemma we are facing today. I believe the fact of IM getting
> > popular happens too in Western
>
> Just because it popular doesn’t mean we use it at the ASF. It also has to
> fit in with our values of openness and transparency for instance.
>
> > With regarding to Dubbo contributors, they have need of casual tech talk
> > too. If there's no place allowed, then the tech talk will not happen at
> > all.
>
> I think that sort of conversation should be happening on the mailing list.
> It not that it’s not allowed it just that if conversations are happening
> elsewhere the community isn’t going to grow and attract new committers as
> fast as it could.
>
> > Last but not least, today's traffic in this mailing list is pretty low
> > since Dubbo contributors contribute the vast majority.
>
> Which I have listed as a (minor) concern in the current report to the
> board.
>
> > I really interested to learn any success story to attract users into a
> mailing list, especially
> > for the peoples who are not native English speakers.
>
> And the language barrier is a difficult issue. I think it find to not post
> in English with a google (or other) translation so everyone has some idea
> of what is being said. That being said a large number of Apache project
> have people who are not native English speakers and it generally works. We
> get commits from all over the world all the time. (There’s a web site
> showing commits by location I see if I can find it.)
>
> Thanks,
> Justin

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