That is really a question for Infra but they are generally ok with it in
my experience.  As long as they have access should they need it, I think
they would greenlight it.  Recommend you subscribe and email
[email protected] and ask.

Regards,
KAM

On 2/28/2019 10:09 AM, SHUANG SU wrote:
> Kevin,
>
> Thanks for the idea. I think it would be good if the donated cloud service
> located in China can be used.
>
> But there is one more thing I am not clear is if we use servers provided by
> Huawei,
> is the deployment process totally self-service? That is, when we update the
> website periodically,
> we can do it all by ourselves without any communication with the cloud
> administrators or
> operators. (Because in my experience, the communication work makes the
> deployment
> inefficient and unreliable, especially when the deployments are
> performed periodically.)
>
> Thanks,
> ------------------------------
>  Su Shuang (100pah)
> ------------------------------
>
>
>
> On Fri, 22 Feb 2019 at 22:44, Kevin A. McGrail <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Hi Ovilia,
>>
>> BTW, odd Westerner question.  You write your name as Zhang Wenli and
>> your email as Ovilia.  Could you please tell me more about that?  Which
>> is your First Name, Last Name and possibly a Nickname?  For me, for
>> example, Kevin is my first name, Andrew is my middle name, McGrail is my
>> last name (or family name) and KAM is my initials / nickname in one.
>> I'm trying to learn what name you like to be called and I'm worried
>> sometimes I have no idea if I am calling you by your last name, first
>> name, nickname or something else :-)
>>
>>> We choose Baidu Tongji (meaning Analytics) out of the consideration of
>> the
>>> accessibility to Google products in China.
>> One 3rd party versus another as far as I'm concerned so the same
>> question I would ask if it was Google Analytics.  Question: is the
>> account for that a role-based account shared for the podling PMC to
>> access so that it is accessible to all and stays with the project?
>>
>>
>>> As Kevin suggested, Huawei provided servers for Apache that we may use.
>>> That's a great idea.
>>> But just to be clear, are the servers provided in the form of Huawei
>> Cloud
>>> [1] that can be assumed to be accessed all the time, or something like an
>>> SSH account which Huawei could deauthorize afterward? If it's in the
>> latter
>>> form, I guess that's pretty much like we are facing today, only that the
>>> server is on Baidu rather than Huawei.
>> Yes and no. If we went that route of using Huawei, we would be formally
>> asking them under the ASF targeted sponsorship policy
>> (
>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1JhZEcty2fSx7ZxiBs41j3qOUrqsA7TvKmQ13ZZ61lJY/edit
>> )
>> and a formal agreement would be created so it couldn't just be pulled
>> out from under.  This is one of the reasons we ask for 3 year agreements
>> for hosting donations to promote stability.
>>
>> If Baidu is willing to donate some services, that's feasible to pursue
>> especially echarts as a PMC is requesting and will use it.  I just
>> didn't know they, Baidu, provided those services too.  If Baidu is
>> willing to donate things, you could get root access to the box over to
>> infra, use resources from Baidu and as I described, we could use a
>> different URL for that mirror server to give faster access to the people
>> in China.  It will have to be an alternate URL though like we discussed
>> and it should be a mirror of the same info on the main URL, but faster :-)
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> KAM
>>
>> --
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>> Chair Emeritus Apache SpamAssassin Project
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