Great, that would be OK I think~  Thanks~

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 Su Shuang (100pah)
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On Thu, 28 Feb 2019 at 23:15, Kevin A. McGrail <[email protected]> wrote:

> That is really a question for Infra but they are generally ok with it in
> my experience.  As long as they have access should they need it, I think
> they would greenlight it.  Recommend you subscribe and email
> [email protected] and ask.
>
> Regards,
> KAM
>
> On 2/28/2019 10:09 AM, SHUANG SU wrote:
> > Kevin,
> >
> > Thanks for the idea. I think it would be good if the donated cloud
> service
> > located in China can be used.
> >
> > But there is one more thing I am not clear is if we use servers provided
> by
> > Huawei,
> > is the deployment process totally self-service? That is, when we update
> the
> > website periodically,
> > we can do it all by ourselves without any communication with the cloud
> > administrators or
> > operators. (Because in my experience, the communication work makes the
> > deployment
> > inefficient and unreliable, especially when the deployments are
> > performed periodically.)
> >
> > Thanks,
> > ------------------------------
> >  Su Shuang (100pah)
> > ------------------------------
> >
> >
> >
> > On Fri, 22 Feb 2019 at 22:44, Kevin A. McGrail <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> >
> >> Hi Ovilia,
> >>
> >> BTW, odd Westerner question.  You write your name as Zhang Wenli and
> >> your email as Ovilia.  Could you please tell me more about that?  Which
> >> is your First Name, Last Name and possibly a Nickname?  For me, for
> >> example, Kevin is my first name, Andrew is my middle name, McGrail is my
> >> last name (or family name) and KAM is my initials / nickname in one.
> >> I'm trying to learn what name you like to be called and I'm worried
> >> sometimes I have no idea if I am calling you by your last name, first
> >> name, nickname or something else :-)
> >>
> >>> We choose Baidu Tongji (meaning Analytics) out of the consideration of
> >> the
> >>> accessibility to Google products in China.
> >> One 3rd party versus another as far as I'm concerned so the same
> >> question I would ask if it was Google Analytics.  Question: is the
> >> account for that a role-based account shared for the podling PMC to
> >> access so that it is accessible to all and stays with the project?
> >>
> >>
> >>> As Kevin suggested, Huawei provided servers for Apache that we may use.
> >>> That's a great idea.
> >>> But just to be clear, are the servers provided in the form of Huawei
> >> Cloud
> >>> [1] that can be assumed to be accessed all the time, or something like
> an
> >>> SSH account which Huawei could deauthorize afterward? If it's in the
> >> latter
> >>> form, I guess that's pretty much like we are facing today, only that
> the
> >>> server is on Baidu rather than Huawei.
> >> Yes and no. If we went that route of using Huawei, we would be formally
> >> asking them under the ASF targeted sponsorship policy
> >> (
> >>
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1JhZEcty2fSx7ZxiBs41j3qOUrqsA7TvKmQ13ZZ61lJY/edit
> >> )
> >> and a formal agreement would be created so it couldn't just be pulled
> >> out from under.  This is one of the reasons we ask for 3 year agreements
> >> for hosting donations to promote stability.
> >>
> >> If Baidu is willing to donate some services, that's feasible to pursue
> >> especially echarts as a PMC is requesting and will use it.  I just
> >> didn't know they, Baidu, provided those services too.  If Baidu is
> >> willing to donate things, you could get root access to the box over to
> >> infra, use resources from Baidu and as I described, we could use a
> >> different URL for that mirror server to give faster access to the people
> >> in China.  It will have to be an alternate URL though like we discussed
> >> and it should be a mirror of the same info on the main URL, but faster
> :-)
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >>
> >> KAM
> >>
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