On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 4:38 PM, Jack Park <[email protected]> wrote:
> What does it mean "continue"? Does that imply dropping the project from 
> Apache?
>

No.

I meant how we can increase the level of developer involvement -
otherwise we will just continue to stagnate. A project without
releases isn't growing / evolving.

> On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 7:36 AM, Richard Hirsch <[email protected]> wrote:
>> The question is whether we can continue with such limited developer
>> involvement - for whatever reason.
>>
>> Our test instance on CloudBees is still being tested (usually a new
>> user / every other day) (which surprised me)  but the release is
>> really old.
>>
>> D.
>>
>> On Mon, May 28, 2012 at 1:54 PM, Ethan Jewett <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> For me it is definitely a back-burner project at the moment. On the
>>> other hand, I do plan to continuing doing some cleanup and refactoring
>>> work. Just my 2 cents. Sorry not be reply at more length. I've got
>>> limited internet access at the moment but wanted to contribute my
>>> status to the conversation.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Ethan
>>>
>>> On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 1:35 PM, Richard Hirsch <[email protected]> 
>>> wrote:
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> I'd like to start our discussion about ESME and its future.
>>>>
>>>> Let's take a look at current state:
>>>>
>>>> * Development
>>>>
>>>> -The last commit from Ethan was 6 weeks ago and the last commit before
>>>> that was from Vladimir and was 4 months ago.
>>>> -There have been no new Jira items created this year
>>>> - Last release (1.3) was in 08/2011
>>>>
>>>> * Mailing lists
>>>>
>>>> Here are the stats for the last 5 months
>>>>
>>>>   Apr 2012: 1
>>>>   Mar 2012: 1
>>>>   Feb 2012: 15
>>>>   Jan 2012: 6
>>>>   Dec 2011: 6
>>>>
>>>> Many of these emails concerned build problems associated with Jenkins.
>>>>
>>>> These are all indicators that activity in the ESME community has all
>>>> but ceased to exist.
>>>>
>>>> My intention isn't to make anyone feel guilty for not being active - I
>>>> also have much less time for ESME than I did in the past - but to
>>>> start a discussion thread discussing if and how we want to deal with
>>>> this issue.
>>>>
>>>> D.

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