Got it.
I was in a webinar yesterday which was using Twitter for posting
questions; it was only a matter of time before that hashtag got
swamped with spam bots. You'd think there will emerge an alternative
to Twitter for specialized uses.  ESME could be that.

My own interests lie in turning it into a kind of structured
conversation microblog; it's close given it aggregates "conversations"
but I am adding node types, and more.

Jack

On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 7:43 AM, Richard Hirsch <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 4:38 PM, Jack Park <[email protected]> wrote:
>> What does it mean "continue"? Does that imply dropping the project from 
>> Apache?
>>
>
> No.
>
> I meant how we can increase the level of developer involvement -
> otherwise we will just continue to stagnate. A project without
> releases isn't growing / evolving.
>
>> On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 7:36 AM, Richard Hirsch <[email protected]> 
>> wrote:
>>> The question is whether we can continue with such limited developer
>>> involvement - for whatever reason.
>>>
>>> Our test instance on CloudBees is still being tested (usually a new
>>> user / every other day) (which surprised me)  but the release is
>>> really old.
>>>
>>> D.
>>>
>>> On Mon, May 28, 2012 at 1:54 PM, Ethan Jewett <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> For me it is definitely a back-burner project at the moment. On the
>>>> other hand, I do plan to continuing doing some cleanup and refactoring
>>>> work. Just my 2 cents. Sorry not be reply at more length. I've got
>>>> limited internet access at the moment but wanted to contribute my
>>>> status to the conversation.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Ethan
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 1:35 PM, Richard Hirsch <[email protected]> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> I'd like to start our discussion about ESME and its future.
>>>>>
>>>>> Let's take a look at current state:
>>>>>
>>>>> * Development
>>>>>
>>>>> -The last commit from Ethan was 6 weeks ago and the last commit before
>>>>> that was from Vladimir and was 4 months ago.
>>>>> -There have been no new Jira items created this year
>>>>> - Last release (1.3) was in 08/2011
>>>>>
>>>>> * Mailing lists
>>>>>
>>>>> Here are the stats for the last 5 months
>>>>>
>>>>>   Apr 2012: 1
>>>>>   Mar 2012: 1
>>>>>   Feb 2012: 15
>>>>>   Jan 2012: 6
>>>>>   Dec 2011: 6
>>>>>
>>>>> Many of these emails concerned build problems associated with Jenkins.
>>>>>
>>>>> These are all indicators that activity in the ESME community has all
>>>>> but ceased to exist.
>>>>>
>>>>> My intention isn't to make anyone feel guilty for not being active - I
>>>>> also have much less time for ESME than I did in the past - but to
>>>>> start a discussion thread discussing if and how we want to deal with
>>>>> this issue.
>>>>>
>>>>> D.

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