Hello All, Isaac and Viswa, I agree with all what you say.
I use an i7 Processor with 32 GB RAM and 250 GB SSD for testing. Given we might be running ActiveMQ, Cassandra and MySQL/Mariadb. Nginx will likely be running fims-web-app. And given there will be instances when demo server is running along with the containerization tests which might run over the next 6 months, I think the above specs might just work for us. What do you think? Thanks. On Thu, Mar 29, 2018 at 4:52 AM, Isaac Kamga <isaac.ka...@mifos.org> wrote: > Hello Ed, > > On Thu, Mar 29, 2018 at 12:27 AM Viswa Ramamoorthy < > viswaramamoor...@yahoo.com> wrote: > > > For the services currently available (as started by demo server), I > > estimate 4 core/16 GB/100 GB would be minimum needed. > > > > Viswa, I agree with most of these specifications but I think 4 Cores won't > run demo-server without unnecessary timeouts. I think we need at least 8 > processors there. What do you think ? > > > > > > On Wednesday, March 28, 2018 03:05:12 PM EDT, Ed Cable < > > edca...@mifos.org> wrote: > > > > > > As we discussed earlier, the work to set up and configure the demo server > > on the Apache infrastructure needs to be carried out by committers. > > > > Fortunately, Nikhil, Rajan, and Isaac, all committers, have graciously > > volunteered their time to assist. Can you all please provide your Apache > > IDs on the issue at https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-16203 so > > you can get the necessary access. > > > > I have just commented on the issue about my ID. > > > > > > We will then discuss on this thread the needed steps to proceed forward. > > However, before that, we need to answer some of the questions from Chris > > about what base packages would need to be installed: > https://goo.gl/iixSGX > > > > I started compiling a document <https://goo.gl/oJpAiJ> on specifications > for the VM. We could supplement it before continuing our request to the > Apache Infra team. > > > > > > > > Myrle, Viswa, > > > > Can we please solidify on the base packages, minimum specs this VM needs > > for deployment of the Fineract CN demo server? > > > > Once we have established that, those individuals with the needed > expertise > > can assist the committers above who have volunteered to assist with this. > > > > Ed > > > > On Mon, Mar 26, 2018 at 3:27 AM, Courage Angeh <couragean...@gmail.com> > > wrote: > > > > > Hi Viswa, > > > > > > I agree with you about Demo Server being largely oriented towards a > quick > > > use but it has a lot of useful data. I have gone through demo server > too > > > and I see they introduce RSA keys through external properties so I was > > > thinking changing all the microservices will be a little more > stressful, > > we > > > could pass external properties to it when running the different jar > > files. > > > True talk about Eureka, I am trying to work on that too. > > > But I was thinking we don't need that much scripts and we don't have to > > > change too much. > > > I wrote a proposal about this for a GSOC project, > > > https://docs.google.com/document/d/1zp6CeYP6ox51tGSu1fE9cBAWpaQnq > > > jeBBVIa-n0evso/edit?usp=sharing > > > , could you check it out? I will be delighted to get you point of view > > and > > > comments about this doc :) > > > > > > Thanks Courage > > > > > > On Sat, Mar 24, 2018 at 1:06 PM, Viswa Ramamoorthy < > > > viswaramamoor...@yahoo.com.invalid> wrote: > > > > > > > Hello, > > > > I think services need more work to get to deployable state. Demo > server > > > is > > > > largely oriented towards a quick use in laptops/desktops but using > > Junit > > > to > > > > bootsrap services may result in inconsistencies. > > > > I have been reviewing for sometime now. Based on my review, below are > > the > > > > changes needed to get to deployment in a VM > > > > 1. Currently services need RSA key to bootstrap. That is fine. But > > there > > > > is no self acquire mode to get them deployed to environments like > demo > > > > envs. a) Ideally a spring configured (say demo config) can be > > > > introduced to self acquire RSA keys to continue with service start. > > > > b) With this change, we could just start services using spring boot > jar > > > > with a configuration property at the time of service start up > c) I > > > > have tried this change in my laptop for fineract-cn-provisioner. I > can > > > > raise a PR. Needs to be propagated to other services > > > > 2. Eureka registration and renewal is bit flaky. Needs work on self > > > > registration front as well as health indicator front. Spring has > > tooling > > > on > > > > this front. We just need to add and configure. > > > > 3. Develop scripts to start services. Simple shell scripts good > enough > > at > > > > this point. a) One use case is to build/deploy for use in VM b) > > > > Another use case is to facilitate selective service launch approach > > that > > > > was alluding to a while back. For example, if some one needs to work > on > > > > 'accounting' services and depends on 'customer' services, they could > > > bring > > > > up 'customer' along with infrastructures using shell scripts (to be > > > > developed) and continue with development in accounting. > > > > 4. Deploy basic infrastructure needed for services - Eureka, > ActiveMQ, > > > > Cassandra and MariaDB. These can be Dockers and I already sent PR on > > this > > > > front. > > > > Proposal is to create a new repo to have build/deployment scripts > > stored > > > > to get this used in VM and support laptop use cases to help with > > > > development. > > > > I can help/guide as needed. > > > > > > > > RegardsViswa Ramamoorthy > > > > On Friday, March 23, 2018 06:52:27 AM EDT, Isaac > > > > Kamga <isaac.ka...@skylabase.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > Hi Ed, > > > > > > > > I am willing to assist in configuring the VM requested for Apache > > > Fineract > > > > CN. > > > > > > > > I don't have all the required skills but with commitment and some > > > > mentorship, this up and running within a few weeks. > > > > > > > > At Your Service, > > > > Isaac Kamga. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Mar 22, 2018 at 10:17 PM, Ed Cable <edca...@mifos.org> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Committers, > > > > > > > > > > We need a committer who can assist in configuring the VM we've > > > requested > > > > > for a public demo server for Apache Fineract CN. The massive > > hardware > > > > > requirements to build locally have made this a huge barrier to > > > > prospective > > > > > GSOC applicants. We were trying to get this infrastructure set up > but > > > > don't > > > > > have anybody with committer status who've raised their hands to > > > configure > > > > > the VM that Apache infrastructure is providing us. > > > > > > > > > > If you're able to, please respond to this thread and jump on to > > comment > > > > > thread on the Apache Infrastructure ticket at > > > > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-16203 > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > > > Ed > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Mar 22, 2018 at 1:54 PM, Ed Cable <edca...@mifos.org> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Aleks, > > > > > > > > > > > > Apache IDs are only available to committers. The guide to > becoming > > a > > > > > > committer is at https://cwiki.apache.org/ > > > confluence/display/FINERACT/ > > > > > Beco > > > > > > ming+a+Committer > > > > > > > > > > > > I know that the major body of your work related to Fineract isn't > > yet > > > > > > something the customer was willing to contribute back yet so > you've > > > > been > > > > > > trying to build your public contributions in other ways. I was > > hoping > > > > > that > > > > > > this task could be a great way to do that but unfortunately you > > won't > > > > be > > > > > > able to do the actual configuration and setup on the VMs until > you > > > have > > > > > > achieved committer status. > > > > > > > > > > > > Nonetheless though a great contribution you could make right now > is > > > > > giving > > > > > > your input on how the VM could be be configured and responded to > > some > > > > of > > > > > > the feedback from Viswa. Your inputs here would be exceptionally > > > > valuable > > > > > > to whoever from our group of committers steps up with enough free > > > time > > > > to > > > > > > be able to configure the VM. > > > > > > > > > > > > Robert/Aleks - could you please share any questions/feedback you > > have > > > > on > > > > > > the VM setup on this thread? > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > > > > > Ed > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Mar 19, 2018 at 8:51 AM, Aleksandar Vidakovic < > > > > > > chee...@monkeysintown.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > >> Hi Ed, > > > > > >> > > > > > >> ... how do I get one of those Apache IDs? Anything you need from > > me? > > > > > >> > > > > > >> Cheers, > > > > > >> > > > > > >> Aleks > > > > > >> > > > > > >> On Mon, Mar 19, 2018 at 3:50 PM Ed Cable <edca...@mifos.org> > > wrote: > > > > > >> > > > > > >>> Thanks Viswa. I will let Myrle and others reply to your input. > > > > Through > > > > > >>> Apache for this demo infrastructure I think we only have access > > to > > > > one > > > > > VM. > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> Myrle, Robert, Aleks, > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> Did you see Chris' comments on the Infra ticket? > > > > https://issues.apache > > > > > . > > > > > >>> org/jira/browse/INFRA-16203 > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> Permalink > > > > > >>> <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-16203? > > > > > focusedCommentId=16403788&page=com.atlassian.jira. > > > > > plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel#comment-16403788> > > > > > >>> [image: cml]Chris Lambertus > > > > > >>> <https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/ViewProfile.jspa? > name=cml > > > > > > > > added > > > > > >>> a comment - 2 days ago > > > > > >>> We'll need a list of apache IDs who will need access to the VM. > > We > > > > use > > > > > >>> puppet to maintain configs, so we can set up some boilerplate > > > config > > > > > for > > > > > >>> httpd with proxy entries and letsencrypt SSL certs if you wish > > (or > > > > you > > > > > can > > > > > >>> manage that entirely yourself.) We can also install a base set > of > > > > > packages > > > > > >>> if you let us know what you need. > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> On Sun, Mar 18, 2018 at 3:51 AM, Viswa Ramamoorthy < > > > > > >>> viswaramamoor...@yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>>> Hello, > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> My 2 cents... > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> Assuming > > > > > >>>> a) all of 30+ services (gtihub.com/apache/fineract-cn-*) to > be > > > > > >>>> deployed as individual micro services > > > > > >>>> b) in a single VM (this is the quickest as more maturity > needed > > > for > > > > > >>>> multi VM deployments) > > > > > >>>> c) usage purpose is for integration environment for functional > > > test > > > > & > > > > > >>>> demo > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> I would say 8 core/24 GB/250 GB would be minimum spec. > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> For future service additions, a second VM can be added to > make > > > it a > > > > > >>>> cluster. To prepare towards support for deployments in > multiple > > > VMs, > > > > > >>>> deployment strategy like Docker needs to be matured. There are > > > other > > > > > ways > > > > > >>>> to deploy services across multiple VMs. In my opinion, Docker > > with > > > > > swarm or > > > > > >>>> Kubernetes would be a very good candidate > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> Regards > > > > > >>>> Viswa Ramamoorthy > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> On Saturday, March 17, 2018 06:45:48 PM EDT, > Ed > > > > > Cable < > > > > > >>>> edca...@mifos.org> wrote: > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> I'm not sure the process as it's not well documented nor do I > > know > > > > the > > > > > >>>> virtual machine requirements for Fineract CN but I created the > > > > ticket > > > > > >>>> and > > > > > >>>> would appreciate others from PMC to put in comments the > > specifics > > > > > >>>> required > > > > > >>>> for the instance: https://issues.apache.org/ > > > jira/browse/INFRA-16203 > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> Thanks, > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> Ed > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> On Sat, Mar 17, 2018 at 9:01 AM, Myrle Krantz < > my...@apache.org > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> > Hey Ed, > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> > It’s just a matter of putting in an Infra ticket. Anyone on > > the > > > > PMC > > > > > >>>> can do > > > > > >>>> > it. > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> > Regards, > > > > > >>>> > Myrle > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> > On Sat 17. Mar 2018 at 08:50 Ed Cable <edca...@mifos.org> > > > wrote: > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > >>>> > > Myrle, > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > > I know you are still slammed but wanted to see if you had > > the > > > > > >>>> chance to > > > > > >>>> > > place this request or if it was something I could do as I > > > wanted > > > > > to > > > > > >>>> get > > > > > >>>> > > Aleks up and going as it's proving problematic for a > number > > of > > > > our > > > > > >>>> GSOC > > > > > >>>> > > aspirants to not be able to fully grok the functionality > of > > > > > >>>> Fineract CN > > > > > >>>> > > without having access to a web app. For many the high > > hardware > > > > > >>>> > requirements > > > > > >>>> > > is proving to be an insurmountable barrier. Applications > are > > > due > > > > > by > > > > > >>>> the > > > > > >>>> > > 27th so I was hoping by early next week we might be able > to > > > get > > > > > this > > > > > >>>> > setup. > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > > Cheers, > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > > Ed > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > > On Mon, Mar 12, 2018 at 7:20 AM, Ed Cable < > > edca...@mifos.org> > > > > > >>>> wrote: > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > >>>> > > > Myrle, > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > Robert Jakech and Aleksander Vidakovic have volunteered > to > > > > > >>>> assist. I'll > > > > > >>>> > > > let you move forward with the process and let you > provide > > > them > > > > > the > > > > > >>>> > > > necessary information to allow them to get access to > > > > > >>>> infrstructure and > > > > > >>>> > > get > > > > > >>>> > > > continuous build process going for the community to have > > > > access > > > > > >>>> to a > > > > > >>>> > > > publicly available instance of the demo server. > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > Ed > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > On Thu, Mar 8, 2018 at 6:26 AM, Myrle Krantz < > > > > my...@apache.org> > > > > > >>>> wrote: > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > >>>> > > >> On Wed, Mar 7, 2018 at 9:25 PM, Ed Cable < > > > edca...@mifos.org> > > > > > >>>> wrote: > > > > > >>>> > > >> > Hi all, I wanted to give this thread a new subject > line > > > as > > > > > >>>> it's a > > > > > >>>> > > >> valuable > > > > > >>>> > > >> > discussion that had gone beyond the original topic. > I'm > > > > > >>>> especially > > > > > >>>> > > >> thinking > > > > > >>>> > > >> > about this in the context of new potential > contributors > > > > that > > > > > >>>> are > > > > > >>>> > > coming > > > > > >>>> > > >> > along for GSOC that won't have the proper hardware to > > > build > > > > > and > > > > > >>>> > > deploy. > > > > > >>>> > > >> > > > > > > >>>> > > >> > While you all are continuing the discussion around > > > > > >>>> dockerization of > > > > > >>>> > > >> > services, running from a single process, and running > > > > > >>>> microservices > > > > > >>>> > > >> > selectively, I wanted to raise the request that Myrle > > > and I > > > > > had > > > > > >>>> > > >> discussed > > > > > >>>> > > >> > around requesting a VM from the Apache infrastructure > > to > > > > use > > > > > to > > > > > >>>> > > deploy a > > > > > >>>> > > >> > public demo server for the community. This would > > provide > > > a > > > > > >>>> tool for > > > > > >>>> > > >> users > > > > > >>>> > > >> > and partners to quickly evaluate and keep progress of > > > > > >>>> functionality > > > > > >>>> > > but > > > > > >>>> > > >> > more importantly allow web and mobile devs to test > > their > > > > > >>>> changes > > > > > >>>> > > without > > > > > >>>> > > >> > having to build the entire project locally. > > > > > >>>> > > >> > > > > > > >>>> > > >> > Myrle can we request such infrastructure? > > > > > >>>> > > >> > > > > > >>>> > > >> I'll request if we have someone who will take on the > > > > > >>>> deployment. 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