Hey Isaac, Can you move that content into confluence please? That's our place for documentation collaboration. If you need additional guidance, just ask.
Best Regards, Myrle On Thu, Mar 29, 2018 at 7:38 AM, Awasum Yannick <awa...@apache.org> wrote: > Hey Isaac, > > I don't have permission to comment on your Fineract Infra doc above. > > > > On Thu, Mar 29, 2018 at 6:35 AM, Awasum Yannick <awa...@apache.org> wrote: > >> Hello All, >> >> Isaac and Viswa, I agree with all what you say. >> >> I use an i7 Processor with 32 GB RAM and 250 GB SSD for testing. Given we >> might be running ActiveMQ, Cassandra and MySQL/Mariadb. >> Nginx will likely be running fims-web-app. And given there will be >> instances when demo server is running along with the containerization tests >> which might run over the next 6 months, I think the above specs might just >> work for us. What do you think? >> >> >> Thanks. >> >> >> On Thu, Mar 29, 2018 at 4:52 AM, Isaac Kamga <isaac.ka...@mifos.org> >> wrote: >> >>> Hello Ed, >>> >>> On Thu, Mar 29, 2018 at 12:27 AM Viswa Ramamoorthy < >>> viswaramamoor...@yahoo.com> wrote: >>> >>> > For the services currently available (as started by demo server), I >>> > estimate 4 core/16 GB/100 GB would be minimum needed. >>> > >>> >>> Viswa, I agree with most of these specifications but I think 4 Cores won't >>> run demo-server without unnecessary timeouts. I think we need at least 8 >>> processors there. What do you think ? >>> >>> >>> > >>> > On Wednesday, March 28, 2018 03:05:12 PM EDT, Ed Cable >>> < >>> > edca...@mifos.org> wrote: >>> > >>> > >>> > As we discussed earlier, the work to set up and configure the demo >>> server >>> > on the Apache infrastructure needs to be carried out by committers. >>> > >>> > Fortunately, Nikhil, Rajan, and Isaac, all committers, have graciously >>> > volunteered their time to assist. Can you all please provide your Apache >>> > IDs on the issue at https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-16203 >>> so >>> > you can get the necessary access. >>> > >>> >>> I have just commented on the issue about my ID. >>> >>> >>> > >>> > We will then discuss on this thread the needed steps to proceed forward. >>> > However, before that, we need to answer some of the questions from Chris >>> > about what base packages would need to be installed: >>> https://goo.gl/iixSGX >>> > >>> >>> I started compiling a document <https://goo.gl/oJpAiJ> on specifications >>> for the VM. We could supplement it before continuing our request to the >>> Apache Infra team. >>> >>> >>> > >>> > >>> > Myrle, Viswa, >>> > >>> > Can we please solidify on the base packages, minimum specs this VM needs >>> > for deployment of the Fineract CN demo server? >>> > >>> > Once we have established that, those individuals with the needed >>> expertise >>> > can assist the committers above who have volunteered to assist with >>> this. >>> > >>> > Ed >>> > >>> > On Mon, Mar 26, 2018 at 3:27 AM, Courage Angeh <couragean...@gmail.com> >>> > wrote: >>> > >>> > > Hi Viswa, >>> > > >>> > > I agree with you about Demo Server being largely oriented towards a >>> quick >>> > > use but it has a lot of useful data. I have gone through demo server >>> too >>> > > and I see they introduce RSA keys through external properties so I was >>> > > thinking changing all the microservices will be a little more >>> stressful, >>> > we >>> > > could pass external properties to it when running the different jar >>> > files. >>> > > True talk about Eureka, I am trying to work on that too. >>> > > But I was thinking we don't need that much scripts and we don't have >>> to >>> > > change too much. >>> > > I wrote a proposal about this for a GSOC project, >>> > > https://docs.google.com/document/d/1zp6CeYP6ox51tGSu1fE9cBAWpaQnq >>> > > jeBBVIa-n0evso/edit?usp=sharing >>> > > , could you check it out? I will be delighted to get you point of view >>> > and >>> > > comments about this doc :) >>> > > >>> > > Thanks Courage >>> > > >>> > > On Sat, Mar 24, 2018 at 1:06 PM, Viswa Ramamoorthy < >>> > > viswaramamoor...@yahoo.com.invalid> wrote: >>> > > >>> > > > Hello, >>> > > > I think services need more work to get to deployable state. Demo >>> server >>> > > is >>> > > > largely oriented towards a quick use in laptops/desktops but using >>> > Junit >>> > > to >>> > > > bootsrap services may result in inconsistencies. >>> > > > I have been reviewing for sometime now. Based on my review, below >>> are >>> > the >>> > > > changes needed to get to deployment in a VM >>> > > > 1. Currently services need RSA key to bootstrap. That is fine. But >>> > there >>> > > > is no self acquire mode to get them deployed to environments like >>> demo >>> > > > envs. a) Ideally a spring configured (say demo config) can be >>> > > > introduced to self acquire RSA keys to continue with service start. >>> > > > b) With this change, we could just start services using spring boot >>> jar >>> > > > with a configuration property at the time of service start up >>> c) I >>> > > > have tried this change in my laptop for fineract-cn-provisioner. I >>> can >>> > > > raise a PR. Needs to be propagated to other services >>> > > > 2. Eureka registration and renewal is bit flaky. Needs work on self >>> > > > registration front as well as health indicator front. Spring has >>> > tooling >>> > > on >>> > > > this front. We just need to add and configure. >>> > > > 3. Develop scripts to start services. Simple shell scripts good >>> enough >>> > at >>> > > > this point. a) One use case is to build/deploy for use in VM >>> b) >>> > > > Another use case is to facilitate selective service launch approach >>> > that >>> > > > was alluding to a while back. For example, if some one needs to >>> work on >>> > > > 'accounting' services and depends on 'customer' services, they could >>> > > bring >>> > > > up 'customer' along with infrastructures using shell scripts (to be >>> > > > developed) and continue with development in accounting. >>> > > > 4. Deploy basic infrastructure needed for services - Eureka, >>> ActiveMQ, >>> > > > Cassandra and MariaDB. These can be Dockers and I already sent PR on >>> > this >>> > > > front. >>> > > > Proposal is to create a new repo to have build/deployment scripts >>> > stored >>> > > > to get this used in VM and support laptop use cases to help with >>> > > > development. >>> > > > I can help/guide as needed. >>> > > > >>> > > > RegardsViswa Ramamoorthy >>> > > > On Friday, March 23, 2018 06:52:27 AM EDT, Isaac >>> > > > Kamga <isaac.ka...@skylabase.com> wrote: >>> > > > >>> > > > Hi Ed, >>> > > > >>> > > > I am willing to assist in configuring the VM requested for Apache >>> > > Fineract >>> > > > CN. >>> > > > >>> > > > I don't have all the required skills but with commitment and some >>> > > > mentorship, this up and running within a few weeks. >>> > > > >>> > > > At Your Service, >>> > > > Isaac Kamga. >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > On Thu, Mar 22, 2018 at 10:17 PM, Ed Cable <edca...@mifos.org> >>> wrote: >>> > > > >>> > > > > Committers, >>> > > > > >>> > > > > We need a committer who can assist in configuring the VM we've >>> > > requested >>> > > > > for a public demo server for Apache Fineract CN. The massive >>> > hardware >>> > > > > requirements to build locally have made this a huge barrier to >>> > > > prospective >>> > > > > GSOC applicants. We were trying to get this infrastructure set up >>> but >>> > > > don't >>> > > > > have anybody with committer status who've raised their hands to >>> > > configure >>> > > > > the VM that Apache infrastructure is providing us. >>> > > > > >>> > > > > If you're able to, please respond to this thread and jump on to >>> > comment >>> > > > > thread on the Apache Infrastructure ticket at >>> > > > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-16203 >>> > > > > >>> > > > > Thanks, >>> > > > > >>> > > > > Ed >>> > > > > >>> > > > > On Thu, Mar 22, 2018 at 1:54 PM, Ed Cable <edca...@mifos.org> >>> wrote: >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > Aleks, >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > Apache IDs are only available to committers. The guide to >>> becoming >>> > a >>> > > > > > committer is at https://cwiki.apache.org/ >>> > > confluence/display/FINERACT/ >>> > > > > Beco >>> > > > > > ming+a+Committer >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > I know that the major body of your work related to Fineract >>> isn't >>> > yet >>> > > > > > something the customer was willing to contribute back yet so >>> you've >>> > > > been >>> > > > > > trying to build your public contributions in other ways. I was >>> > hoping >>> > > > > that >>> > > > > > this task could be a great way to do that but unfortunately you >>> > won't >>> > > > be >>> > > > > > able to do the actual configuration and setup on the VMs until >>> you >>> > > have >>> > > > > > achieved committer status. >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > Nonetheless though a great contribution you could make right >>> now is >>> > > > > giving >>> > > > > > your input on how the VM could be be configured and responded to >>> > some >>> > > > of >>> > > > > > the feedback from Viswa. Your inputs here would be exceptionally >>> > > > valuable >>> > > > > > to whoever from our group of committers steps up with enough >>> free >>> > > time >>> > > > to >>> > > > > > be able to configure the VM. >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > Robert/Aleks - could you please share any questions/feedback you >>> > have >>> > > > on >>> > > > > > the VM setup on this thread? >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > Thanks, >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > Ed >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > On Mon, Mar 19, 2018 at 8:51 AM, Aleksandar Vidakovic < >>> > > > > > chee...@monkeysintown.com> wrote: >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > >> Hi Ed, >>> > > > > >> >>> > > > > >> ... how do I get one of those Apache IDs? Anything you need >>> from >>> > me? >>> > > > > >> >>> > > > > >> Cheers, >>> > > > > >> >>> > > > > >> Aleks >>> > > > > >> >>> > > > > >> On Mon, Mar 19, 2018 at 3:50 PM Ed Cable <edca...@mifos.org> >>> > wrote: >>> > > > > >> >>> > > > > >>> Thanks Viswa. I will let Myrle and others reply to your input. >>> > > > Through >>> > > > > >>> Apache for this demo infrastructure I think we only have >>> access >>> > to >>> > > > one >>> > > > > VM. >>> > > > > >>> >>> > > > > >>> Myrle, Robert, Aleks, >>> > > > > >>> >>> > > > > >>> Did you see Chris' comments on the Infra ticket? >>> > > > https://issues.apache >>> > > > > . >>> > > > > >>> org/jira/browse/INFRA-16203 >>> > > > > >>> >>> > > > > >>> Permalink >>> > > > > >>> <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-16203? >>> > > > > focusedCommentId=16403788&page=com.atlassian.jira. >>> > > > > plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel#comment-16403788> >>> > > > > >>> [image: cml]Chris Lambertus >>> > > > > >>> <https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/ViewProfile.jspa?name >>> =cml >>> > > >>> > > > > added >>> > > > > >>> a comment - 2 days ago >>> > > > > >>> We'll need a list of apache IDs who will need access to the >>> VM. >>> > We >>> > > > use >>> > > > > >>> puppet to maintain configs, so we can set up some boilerplate >>> > > config >>> > > > > for >>> > > > > >>> httpd with proxy entries and letsencrypt SSL certs if you wish >>> > (or >>> > > > you >>> > > > > can >>> > > > > >>> manage that entirely yourself.) We can also install a base >>> set of >>> > > > > packages >>> > > > > >>> if you let us know what you need. >>> > > > > >>> >>> > > > > >>> >>> > > > > >>> On Sun, Mar 18, 2018 at 3:51 AM, Viswa Ramamoorthy < >>> > > > > >>> viswaramamoor...@yahoo.com> wrote: >>> > > > > >>> >>> > > > > >>>> Hello, >>> > > > > >>>> >>> > > > > >>>> My 2 cents... >>> > > > > >>>> >>> > > > > >>>> Assuming >>> > > > > >>>> a) all of 30+ services (gtihub.com/apache/fineract-cn-*) to >>> be >>> > > > > >>>> deployed as individual micro services >>> > > > > >>>> b) in a single VM (this is the quickest as more maturity >>> needed >>> > > for >>> > > > > >>>> multi VM deployments) >>> > > > > >>>> c) usage purpose is for integration environment for >>> functional >>> > > test >>> > > > & >>> > > > > >>>> demo >>> > > > > >>>> >>> > > > > >>>> I would say 8 core/24 GB/250 GB would be minimum spec. >>> > > > > >>>> >>> > > > > >>>> For future service additions, a second VM can be added to >>> make >>> > > it a >>> > > > > >>>> cluster. To prepare towards support for deployments in >>> multiple >>> > > VMs, >>> > > > > >>>> deployment strategy like Docker needs to be matured. There >>> are >>> > > other >>> > > > > ways >>> > > > > >>>> to deploy services across multiple VMs. In my opinion, Docker >>> > with >>> > > > > swarm or >>> > > > > >>>> Kubernetes would be a very good candidate >>> > > > > >>>> >>> > > > > >>>> Regards >>> > > > > >>>> Viswa Ramamoorthy >>> > > > > >>>> >>> > > > > >>>> On Saturday, March 17, 2018 06:45:48 PM >>> EDT, Ed >>> > > > > Cable < >>> > > > > >>>> edca...@mifos.org> wrote: >>> > > > > >>>> >>> > > > > >>>> I'm not sure the process as it's not well documented nor do I >>> > know >>> > > > the >>> > > > > >>>> virtual machine requirements for Fineract CN but I created >>> the >>> > > > ticket >>> > > > > >>>> and >>> > > > > >>>> would appreciate others from PMC to put in comments the >>> > specifics >>> > > > > >>>> required >>> > > > > >>>> for the instance: https://issues.apache.org/ >>> > > jira/browse/INFRA-16203 >>> > > > > >>>> >>> > > > > >>>> Thanks, >>> > > > > >>>> >>> > > > > >>>> Ed >>> > > > > >>>> >>> > > > > >>>> On Sat, Mar 17, 2018 at 9:01 AM, Myrle Krantz < >>> my...@apache.org >>> > > >>> > > > > wrote: >>> > > > > >>>> >>> > > > > >>>> > Hey Ed, >>> > > > > >>>> > >>> > > > > >>>> > It’s just a matter of putting in an Infra ticket. Anyone on >>> > the >>> > > > PMC >>> > > > > >>>> can do >>> > > > > >>>> > it. >>> > > > > >>>> > >>> > > > > >>>> > Regards, >>> > > > > >>>> > Myrle >>> > > > > >>>> >>> > > > > >>> >>> > > > > >>>> > >>> > > > > >>>> > On Sat 17. Mar 2018 at 08:50 Ed Cable <edca...@mifos.org> >>> > > wrote: >>> > > > > >>>> > >>> > > > > >>>> > > Myrle, >>> > > > > >>>> > > >>> > > > > >>>> > > I know you are still slammed but wanted to see if you had >>> > the >>> > > > > >>>> chance to >>> > > > > >>>> > > place this request or if it was something I could do as I >>> > > wanted >>> > > > > to >>> > > > > >>>> get >>> > > > > >>>> > > Aleks up and going as it's proving problematic for a >>> number >>> > of >>> > > > our >>> > > > > >>>> GSOC >>> > > > > >>>> > > aspirants to not be able to fully grok the functionality >>> of >>> > > > > >>>> Fineract CN >>> > > > > >>>> > > without having access to a web app. For many the high >>> > hardware >>> > > > > >>>> > requirements >>> > > > > >>>> > > is proving to be an insurmountable barrier. Applications >>> are >>> > > due >>> > > > > by >>> > > > > >>>> the >>> > > > > >>>> > > 27th so I was hoping by early next week we might be able >>> to >>> > > get >>> > > > > this >>> > > > > >>>> > setup. >>> > > > > >>>> > > >>> > > > > >>>> > > Cheers, >>> > > > > >>>> > > >>> > > > > >>>> > > Ed >>> > > > > >>>> > > >>> > > > > >>>> > > On Mon, Mar 12, 2018 at 7:20 AM, Ed Cable < >>> > edca...@mifos.org> >>> > > > > >>>> wrote: >>> > > > > >>>> > > >>> > > > > >>>> > > > Myrle, >>> > > > > >>>> > > > >>> > > > > >>>> > > > Robert Jakech and Aleksander Vidakovic have >>> volunteered to >>> > > > > >>>> assist. I'll >>> > > > > >>>> > > > let you move forward with the process and let you >>> provide >>> > > them >>> > > > > the >>> > > > > >>>> > > > necessary information to allow them to get access to >>> > > > > >>>> infrstructure and >>> > > > > >>>> > > get >>> > > > > >>>> > > > continuous build process going for the community to >>> have >>> > > > access >>> > > > > >>>> to a >>> > > > > >>>> > > > publicly available instance of the demo server. >>> > > > > >>>> > > > >>> > > > > >>>> > > > Ed >>> > > > > >>>> > > > >>> > > > > >>>> > > > On Thu, Mar 8, 2018 at 6:26 AM, Myrle Krantz < >>> > > > my...@apache.org> >>> > > > > >>>> wrote: >>> > > > > >>>> > > > >>> > > > > >>>> > > >> On Wed, Mar 7, 2018 at 9:25 PM, Ed Cable < >>> > > edca...@mifos.org> >>> > > > > >>>> wrote: >>> > > > > >>>> > > >> > Hi all, I wanted to give this thread a new subject >>> line >>> > > as >>> > > > > >>>> it's a >>> > > > > >>>> > > >> valuable >>> > > > > >>>> > > >> > discussion that had gone beyond the original topic. >>> I'm >>> > > > > >>>> especially >>> > > > > >>>> > > >> thinking >>> > > > > >>>> > > >> > about this in the context of new potential >>> contributors >>> > > > that >>> > > > > >>>> are >>> > > > > >>>> > > coming >>> > > > > >>>> > > >> > along for GSOC that won't have the proper hardware >>> to >>> > > build >>> > > > > and >>> > > > > >>>> > > deploy. >>> > > > > >>>> > > >> > >>> > > > > >>>> > > >> > While you all are continuing the discussion around >>> > > > > >>>> dockerization of >>> > > > > >>>> > > >> > services, running from a single process, and running >>> > > > > >>>> microservices >>> > > > > >>>> > > >> > selectively, I wanted to raise the request that >>> Myrle >>> > > and I >>> > > > > had >>> > > > > >>>> > > >> discussed >>> > > > > >>>> > > >> > around requesting a VM from the Apache >>> infrastructure >>> > to >>> > > > use >>> > > > > to >>> > > > > >>>> > > deploy a >>> > > > > >>>> > > >> > public demo server for the community. This would >>> > provide >>> > > a >>> > > > > >>>> tool for >>> > > > > >>>> > > >> users >>> > > > > >>>> > > >> > and partners to quickly evaluate and keep progress >>> of >>> > > > > >>>> functionality >>> > > > > >>>> > > but >>> > > > > >>>> > > >> > more importantly allow web and mobile devs to test >>> > their >>> > > > > >>>> changes >>> > > > > >>>> > > without >>> > > > > >>>> > > >> > having to build the entire project locally. >>> > > > > >>>> > > >> > >>> > > > > >>>> > > >> > Myrle can we request such infrastructure? >>> > > > > >>>> > > >> >>> > > > > >>>> > > >> I'll request if we have someone who will take on the >>> > > > > >>>> deployment. Do >>> > > > > >>>> > we? >>> > > > > >>>> > > >> >>> > > > > >>>> > > >> Best Regards, >>> > > > > >>>> > > >> Myrle >>> > > > > >>>> > > >> >>> > > > > >>>> > > > >>> > > > > >>>> > > > >>> > > > > >>>> > > > >>> > > > > >>>> > > > -- >>> > > > > >>>> >>> > > > > >>> > > > *Ed Cable* >>> > > > > >>>> >>> > > > > >>> >>> > > > > >>>> > > > President/CEO, Mifos Initiative >>> > > > > >>>> > > > edca...@mifos.org | Skype: edcable | Mobile: >>> > > +1.484.477.8649 <(484)%20477-8649> >>> > > > > >>>> <(484)%20477-8649> >>> > > > > >>>> >>> > > > > >>> > > > <(484)%20477-8649> >>> > > > > >>>> > > > >>> > > > > >>>> > > > *Collectively Creating a World of 3 Billion Maries | * >>> > > > > >>>> http://mifos.org >>> > > > > >>>> > > > <http://facebook.com/mifos> < >>> > http://www.twitter.com/mifos> >>> > > > > >>>> >>> > > > > >>>> > > > >>> > > > > >>>> > > > >>> > > > > >>>> > > >>> > > > > >>>> > > >>> > > > > >>>> > > -- >>> > > > > >>>> > > *Ed Cable* >>> > > > > >>>> >>> > > > > >>> >>> > > > > >>>> > > President/CEO, Mifos Initiative >>> > > > > >>>> > > edca...@mifos.org | Skype: edcable | Mobile: >>> > +1.484.477.8649 <(484)%20477-8649> >>> > > > > >>>> <(484)%20477-8649> >>> > > > > >>>> > > >>> > > > > >>>> >>> > > > > >>> > > *Collectively Creating a World of 3 Billion Maries | * >>> > > > > >>>> http://mifos.org >>> > > > > >>>> > > <http://facebook.com/mifos> < >>> http://www.twitter.com/mifos> >>> > > > > >>>> > > >>> > > > > >>>> > >>> > > > > >>>> >>> > > > > >>>> >>> > > > > >>>> >>> > > > > >>>> -- >>> > > > > >>>> *Ed Cable* >>> > > > > >>>> >>> > > > > >>> >>> > > > > >>>> President/CEO, Mifos Initiative >>> > > > > >>>> edca...@mifos.org | Skype: edcable | Mobile: +1.484.477.8649 >>> > <(484)%20477-8649> >>> > > > > >>>> <(484)%20477-8649> >>> > > > > >>>> >>> > > > > >>>> *Collectively Creating a World of 3 Billion Maries | * >>> > > > > http://mifos.org >>> > > > > >>>> <http://facebook.com/mifos> <http://www.twitter.com/mifos> >>> > > > > >>>> >>> > > > > >>> >>> > > > > >>> >>> > > > > >>> >>> > > > > >>> -- >>> > > > > >>> *Ed Cable* >>> > > > > >>> President/CEO, Mifos Initiative >>> > > > > >>> edca...@mifos.org | Skype: edcable | Mobile: +1.484.477.8649 >>> > <(484)%20477-8649> >>> > > > > >>> <+1%20484-477-8649> >>> > > > > >>> >>> > > > > >>> *Collectively Creating a World of 3 Billion Maries | * >>> > > > http://mifos.org >>> > > > > >>> <http://facebook.com/mifos> <http://www.twitter.com/mifos> >>> > > > > >>> >>> > > > > >>> >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > -- >>> > > > > > *Ed Cable* >>> > > > > > President/CEO, Mifos Initiative >>> > > > > > edca...@mifos.org | Skype: edcable | Mobile: +1.484.477.8649 >>> > <(484)%20477-8649> >>> > > > > > <(484)%20477-8649> >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > *Collectively Creating a World of 3 Billion Maries | * >>> > > http://mifos.org >>> > > > > > <http://facebook.com/mifos> <http://www.twitter.com/mifos> >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > -- >>> > > > > *Ed Cable* >>> > > > > President/CEO, Mifos Initiative >>> > > > > edca...@mifos.org | Skype: edcable | Mobile: +1.484.477.8649 >>> > <(484)%20477-8649> >>> > > > > <(484)%20477-8649> >>> > > > > >>> > > > > *Collectively Creating a World of 3 Billion Maries | * >>> > http://mifos.org >>> > > > > <http://facebook.com/mifos> <http://www.twitter.com/mifos> >>> > > > > >>> > > > >>> > > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > -- >>> > *Ed Cable* >>> > President/CEO, Mifos Initiative >>> > edca...@mifos.org | Skype: edcable | Mobile: +1.484.477.8649 >>> > <(484)%20477-8649> >>> > >>> > *Collectively Creating a World of 3 Billion Maries | *http://mifos.org >>> > <http://facebook.com/mifos> <http://www.twitter.com/mifos> >>> > >>> >> >>
