Thanks for the reminder Myrle. I just moved the content to confluence here <https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/FINERACT/Requesting+An+Ubuntu+VM+For+Apache+Fineract+CN> .
On Thu, Mar 29, 2018 at 7:59 AM, Myrle Krantz <[email protected]> wrote: > Hey Isaac, > > Can you move that content into confluence please? That's our place > for documentation collaboration. If you need additional guidance, > just ask. > > Best Regards, > Myrle > > On Thu, Mar 29, 2018 at 7:38 AM, Awasum Yannick <[email protected]> wrote: > > Hey Isaac, > > > > I don't have permission to comment on your Fineract Infra doc above. > > > > > > > > On Thu, Mar 29, 2018 at 6:35 AM, Awasum Yannick <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > >> Hello All, > >> > >> Isaac and Viswa, I agree with all what you say. > >> > >> I use an i7 Processor with 32 GB RAM and 250 GB SSD for testing. Given > we > >> might be running ActiveMQ, Cassandra and MySQL/Mariadb. > >> Nginx will likely be running fims-web-app. And given there will be > >> instances when demo server is running along with the containerization > tests > >> which might run over the next 6 months, I think the above specs might > just > >> work for us. What do you think? > >> > >> > >> Thanks. > >> > >> > >> On Thu, Mar 29, 2018 at 4:52 AM, Isaac Kamga <[email protected]> > >> wrote: > >> > >>> Hello Ed, > >>> > >>> On Thu, Mar 29, 2018 at 12:27 AM Viswa Ramamoorthy < > >>> [email protected]> wrote: > >>> > >>> > For the services currently available (as started by demo server), I > >>> > estimate 4 core/16 GB/100 GB would be minimum needed. > >>> > > >>> > >>> Viswa, I agree with most of these specifications but I think 4 Cores > won't > >>> run demo-server without unnecessary timeouts. I think we need at least > 8 > >>> processors there. What do you think ? > >>> > >>> > >>> > > >>> > On Wednesday, March 28, 2018 03:05:12 PM EDT, Ed > Cable > >>> < > >>> > [email protected]> wrote: > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > As we discussed earlier, the work to set up and configure the demo > >>> server > >>> > on the Apache infrastructure needs to be carried out by committers. > >>> > > >>> > Fortunately, Nikhil, Rajan, and Isaac, all committers, have > graciously > >>> > volunteered their time to assist. Can you all please provide your > Apache > >>> > IDs on the issue at https://issues.apache.org/ > jira/browse/INFRA-16203 > >>> so > >>> > you can get the necessary access. > >>> > > >>> > >>> I have just commented on the issue about my ID. > >>> > >>> > >>> > > >>> > We will then discuss on this thread the needed steps to proceed > forward. > >>> > However, before that, we need to answer some of the questions from > Chris > >>> > about what base packages would need to be installed: > >>> https://goo.gl/iixSGX > >>> > > >>> > >>> I started compiling a document <https://goo.gl/oJpAiJ> on > specifications > >>> for the VM. We could supplement it before continuing our request to the > >>> Apache Infra team. > >>> > >>> > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > Myrle, Viswa, > >>> > > >>> > Can we please solidify on the base packages, minimum specs this VM > needs > >>> > for deployment of the Fineract CN demo server? > >>> > > >>> > Once we have established that, those individuals with the needed > >>> expertise > >>> > can assist the committers above who have volunteered to assist with > >>> this. > >>> > > >>> > Ed > >>> > > >>> > On Mon, Mar 26, 2018 at 3:27 AM, Courage Angeh < > [email protected]> > >>> > wrote: > >>> > > >>> > > Hi Viswa, > >>> > > > >>> > > I agree with you about Demo Server being largely oriented towards a > >>> quick > >>> > > use but it has a lot of useful data. I have gone through demo > server > >>> too > >>> > > and I see they introduce RSA keys through external properties so I > was > >>> > > thinking changing all the microservices will be a little more > >>> stressful, > >>> > we > >>> > > could pass external properties to it when running the different jar > >>> > files. > >>> > > True talk about Eureka, I am trying to work on that too. > >>> > > But I was thinking we don't need that much scripts and we don't > have > >>> to > >>> > > change too much. > >>> > > I wrote a proposal about this for a GSOC project, > >>> > > https://docs.google.com/document/d/1zp6CeYP6ox51tGSu1fE9cBAWpaQnq > >>> > > jeBBVIa-n0evso/edit?usp=sharing > >>> > > , could you check it out? I will be delighted to get you point of > view > >>> > and > >>> > > comments about this doc :) > >>> > > > >>> > > Thanks Courage > >>> > > > >>> > > On Sat, Mar 24, 2018 at 1:06 PM, Viswa Ramamoorthy < > >>> > > [email protected]> wrote: > >>> > > > >>> > > > Hello, > >>> > > > I think services need more work to get to deployable state. Demo > >>> server > >>> > > is > >>> > > > largely oriented towards a quick use in laptops/desktops but > using > >>> > Junit > >>> > > to > >>> > > > bootsrap services may result in inconsistencies. > >>> > > > I have been reviewing for sometime now. Based on my review, below > >>> are > >>> > the > >>> > > > changes needed to get to deployment in a VM > >>> > > > 1. Currently services need RSA key to bootstrap. That is fine. > But > >>> > there > >>> > > > is no self acquire mode to get them deployed to environments like > >>> demo > >>> > > > envs. a) Ideally a spring configured (say demo config) can > be > >>> > > > introduced to self acquire RSA keys to continue with service > start. > >>> > > > b) With this change, we could just start services using spring > boot > >>> jar > >>> > > > with a configuration property at the time of service start up > >>> c) I > >>> > > > have tried this change in my laptop for fineract-cn-provisioner. > I > >>> can > >>> > > > raise a PR. Needs to be propagated to other services > >>> > > > 2. Eureka registration and renewal is bit flaky. Needs work on > self > >>> > > > registration front as well as health indicator front. Spring has > >>> > tooling > >>> > > on > >>> > > > this front. We just need to add and configure. > >>> > > > 3. Develop scripts to start services. Simple shell scripts good > >>> enough > >>> > at > >>> > > > this point. a) One use case is to build/deploy for use in VM > >>> b) > >>> > > > Another use case is to facilitate selective service launch > approach > >>> > that > >>> > > > was alluding to a while back. For example, if some one needs to > >>> work on > >>> > > > 'accounting' services and depends on 'customer' services, they > could > >>> > > bring > >>> > > > up 'customer' along with infrastructures using shell scripts (to > be > >>> > > > developed) and continue with development in accounting. > >>> > > > 4. Deploy basic infrastructure needed for services - Eureka, > >>> ActiveMQ, > >>> > > > Cassandra and MariaDB. These can be Dockers and I already sent > PR on > >>> > this > >>> > > > front. > >>> > > > Proposal is to create a new repo to have build/deployment scripts > >>> > stored > >>> > > > to get this used in VM and support laptop use cases to help with > >>> > > > development. > >>> > > > I can help/guide as needed. > >>> > > > > >>> > > > RegardsViswa Ramamoorthy > >>> > > > On Friday, March 23, 2018 06:52:27 AM EDT, > Isaac > >>> > > > Kamga <[email protected]> wrote: > >>> > > > > >>> > > > Hi Ed, > >>> > > > > >>> > > > I am willing to assist in configuring the VM requested for Apache > >>> > > Fineract > >>> > > > CN. > >>> > > > > >>> > > > I don't have all the required skills but with commitment and some > >>> > > > mentorship, this up and running within a few weeks. > >>> > > > > >>> > > > At Your Service, > >>> > > > Isaac Kamga. > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > On Thu, Mar 22, 2018 at 10:17 PM, Ed Cable <[email protected]> > >>> wrote: > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > Committers, > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > We need a committer who can assist in configuring the VM we've > >>> > > requested > >>> > > > > for a public demo server for Apache Fineract CN. The massive > >>> > hardware > >>> > > > > requirements to build locally have made this a huge barrier to > >>> > > > prospective > >>> > > > > GSOC applicants. We were trying to get this infrastructure set > up > >>> but > >>> > > > don't > >>> > > > > have anybody with committer status who've raised their hands to > >>> > > configure > >>> > > > > the VM that Apache infrastructure is providing us. > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > If you're able to, please respond to this thread and jump on to > >>> > comment > >>> > > > > thread on the Apache Infrastructure ticket at > >>> > > > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-16203 > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > Thanks, > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > Ed > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > On Thu, Mar 22, 2018 at 1:54 PM, Ed Cable <[email protected]> > >>> wrote: > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > Aleks, > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > Apache IDs are only available to committers. The guide to > >>> becoming > >>> > a > >>> > > > > > committer is at https://cwiki.apache.org/ > >>> > > confluence/display/FINERACT/ > >>> > > > > Beco > >>> > > > > > ming+a+Committer > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > I know that the major body of your work related to Fineract > >>> isn't > >>> > yet > >>> > > > > > something the customer was willing to contribute back yet so > >>> you've > >>> > > > been > >>> > > > > > trying to build your public contributions in other ways. I > was > >>> > hoping > >>> > > > > that > >>> > > > > > this task could be a great way to do that but unfortunately > you > >>> > won't > >>> > > > be > >>> > > > > > able to do the actual configuration and setup on the VMs > until > >>> you > >>> > > have > >>> > > > > > achieved committer status. > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > Nonetheless though a great contribution you could make right > >>> now is > >>> > > > > giving > >>> > > > > > your input on how the VM could be be configured and > responded to > >>> > some > >>> > > > of > >>> > > > > > the feedback from Viswa. Your inputs here would be > exceptionally > >>> > > > valuable > >>> > > > > > to whoever from our group of committers steps up with enough > >>> free > >>> > > time > >>> > > > to > >>> > > > > > be able to configure the VM. > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > Robert/Aleks - could you please share any questions/feedback > you > >>> > have > >>> > > > on > >>> > > > > > the VM setup on this thread? > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > Thanks, > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > Ed > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > On Mon, Mar 19, 2018 at 8:51 AM, Aleksandar Vidakovic < > >>> > > > > > [email protected]> wrote: > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > >> Hi Ed, > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> ... how do I get one of those Apache IDs? Anything you need > >>> from > >>> > me? > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> Cheers, > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> Aleks > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >> On Mon, Mar 19, 2018 at 3:50 PM Ed Cable <[email protected] > > > >>> > wrote: > >>> > > > > >> > >>> > > > > >>> Thanks Viswa. I will let Myrle and others reply to your > input. > >>> > > > Through > >>> > > > > >>> Apache for this demo infrastructure I think we only have > >>> access > >>> > to > >>> > > > one > >>> > > > > VM. > >>> > > > > >>> > >>> > > > > >>> Myrle, Robert, Aleks, > >>> > > > > >>> > >>> > > > > >>> Did you see Chris' comments on the Infra ticket? > >>> > > > https://issues.apache > >>> > > > > . > >>> > > > > >>> org/jira/browse/INFRA-16203 > >>> > > > > >>> > >>> > > > > >>> Permalink > >>> > > > > >>> <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-16203? > >>> > > > > focusedCommentId=16403788&page=com.atlassian.jira. > >>> > > > > plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel#comment- > 16403788> > >>> > > > > >>> [image: cml]Chris Lambertus > >>> > > > > >>> <https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/ViewProfile.jspa? > name > >>> =cml > >>> > > > >>> > > > > added > >>> > > > > >>> a comment - 2 days ago > >>> > > > > >>> We'll need a list of apache IDs who will need access to the > >>> VM. > >>> > We > >>> > > > use > >>> > > > > >>> puppet to maintain configs, so we can set up some > boilerplate > >>> > > config > >>> > > > > for > >>> > > > > >>> httpd with proxy entries and letsencrypt SSL certs if you > wish > >>> > (or > >>> > > > you > >>> > > > > can > >>> > > > > >>> manage that entirely yourself.) We can also install a base > >>> set of > >>> > > > > packages > >>> > > > > >>> if you let us know what you need. > >>> > > > > >>> > >>> > > > > >>> > >>> > > > > >>> On Sun, Mar 18, 2018 at 3:51 AM, Viswa Ramamoorthy < > >>> > > > > >>> [email protected]> wrote: > >>> > > > > >>> > >>> > > > > >>>> Hello, > >>> > > > > >>>> > >>> > > > > >>>> My 2 cents... > >>> > > > > >>>> > >>> > > > > >>>> Assuming > >>> > > > > >>>> a) all of 30+ services (gtihub.com/apache/fineract-cn-*) > to > >>> be > >>> > > > > >>>> deployed as individual micro services > >>> > > > > >>>> b) in a single VM (this is the quickest as more maturity > >>> needed > >>> > > for > >>> > > > > >>>> multi VM deployments) > >>> > > > > >>>> c) usage purpose is for integration environment for > >>> functional > >>> > > test > >>> > > > & > >>> > > > > >>>> demo > >>> > > > > >>>> > >>> > > > > >>>> I would say 8 core/24 GB/250 GB would be minimum spec. > >>> > > > > >>>> > >>> > > > > >>>> For future service additions, a second VM can be added to > >>> make > >>> > > it a > >>> > > > > >>>> cluster. To prepare towards support for deployments in > >>> multiple > >>> > > VMs, > >>> > > > > >>>> deployment strategy like Docker needs to be matured. There > >>> are > >>> > > other > >>> > > > > ways > >>> > > > > >>>> to deploy services across multiple VMs. In my opinion, > Docker > >>> > with > >>> > > > > swarm or > >>> > > > > >>>> Kubernetes would be a very good candidate > >>> > > > > >>>> > >>> > > > > >>>> Regards > >>> > > > > >>>> Viswa Ramamoorthy > >>> > > > > >>>> > >>> > > > > >>>> On Saturday, March 17, 2018 06:45:48 PM > >>> EDT, Ed > >>> > > > > Cable < > >>> > > > > >>>> [email protected]> wrote: > >>> > > > > >>>> > >>> > > > > >>>> I'm not sure the process as it's not well documented nor > do I > >>> > know > >>> > > > the > >>> > > > > >>>> virtual machine requirements for Fineract CN but I created > >>> the > >>> > > > ticket > >>> > > > > >>>> and > >>> > > > > >>>> would appreciate others from PMC to put in comments the > >>> > specifics > >>> > > > > >>>> required > >>> > > > > >>>> for the instance: https://issues.apache.org/ > >>> > > jira/browse/INFRA-16203 > >>> > > > > >>>> > >>> > > > > >>>> Thanks, > >>> > > > > >>>> > >>> > > > > >>>> Ed > >>> > > > > >>>> > >>> > > > > >>>> On Sat, Mar 17, 2018 at 9:01 AM, Myrle Krantz < > >>> [email protected] > >>> > > > >>> > > > > wrote: > >>> > > > > >>>> > >>> > > > > >>>> > Hey Ed, > >>> > > > > >>>> > > >>> > > > > >>>> > It’s just a matter of putting in an Infra ticket. > Anyone on > >>> > the > >>> > > > PMC > >>> > > > > >>>> can do > >>> > > > > >>>> > it. > >>> > > > > >>>> > > >>> > > > > >>>> > Regards, > >>> > > > > >>>> > Myrle > >>> > > > > >>>> > >>> > > > > >>> > >>> > > > > >>>> > > >>> > > > > >>>> > On Sat 17. Mar 2018 at 08:50 Ed Cable < > [email protected]> > >>> > > wrote: > >>> > > > > >>>> > > >>> > > > > >>>> > > Myrle, > >>> > > > > >>>> > > > >>> > > > > >>>> > > I know you are still slammed but wanted to see if you > had > >>> > the > >>> > > > > >>>> chance to > >>> > > > > >>>> > > place this request or if it was something I could do > as I > >>> > > wanted > >>> > > > > to > >>> > > > > >>>> get > >>> > > > > >>>> > > Aleks up and going as it's proving problematic for a > >>> number > >>> > of > >>> > > > our > >>> > > > > >>>> GSOC > >>> > > > > >>>> > > aspirants to not be able to fully grok the > functionality > >>> of > >>> > > > > >>>> Fineract CN > >>> > > > > >>>> > > without having access to a web app. For many the high > >>> > hardware > >>> > > > > >>>> > requirements > >>> > > > > >>>> > > is proving to be an insurmountable barrier. > Applications > >>> are > >>> > > due > >>> > > > > by > >>> > > > > >>>> the > >>> > > > > >>>> > > 27th so I was hoping by early next week we might be > able > >>> to > >>> > > get > >>> > > > > this > >>> > > > > >>>> > setup. > >>> > > > > >>>> > > > >>> > > > > >>>> > > Cheers, > >>> > > > > >>>> > > > >>> > > > > >>>> > > Ed > >>> > > > > >>>> > > > >>> > > > > >>>> > > On Mon, Mar 12, 2018 at 7:20 AM, Ed Cable < > >>> > [email protected]> > >>> > > > > >>>> wrote: > >>> > > > > >>>> > > > >>> > > > > >>>> > > > Myrle, > >>> > > > > >>>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>>> > > > Robert Jakech and Aleksander Vidakovic have > >>> volunteered to > >>> > > > > >>>> assist. I'll > >>> > > > > >>>> > > > let you move forward with the process and let you > >>> provide > >>> > > them > >>> > > > > the > >>> > > > > >>>> > > > necessary information to allow them to get access to > >>> > > > > >>>> infrstructure and > >>> > > > > >>>> > > get > >>> > > > > >>>> > > > continuous build process going for the community to > >>> have > >>> > > > access > >>> > > > > >>>> to a > >>> > > > > >>>> > > > publicly available instance of the demo server. > >>> > > > > >>>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>>> > > > Ed > >>> > > > > >>>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>>> > > > On Thu, Mar 8, 2018 at 6:26 AM, Myrle Krantz < > >>> > > > [email protected]> > >>> > > > > >>>> wrote: > >>> > > > > >>>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>>> > > >> On Wed, Mar 7, 2018 at 9:25 PM, Ed Cable < > >>> > > [email protected]> > >>> > > > > >>>> wrote: > >>> > > > > >>>> > > >> > Hi all, I wanted to give this thread a new > subject > >>> line > >>> > > as > >>> > > > > >>>> it's a > >>> > > > > >>>> > > >> valuable > >>> > > > > >>>> > > >> > discussion that had gone beyond the original > topic. > >>> I'm > >>> > > > > >>>> especially > >>> > > > > >>>> > > >> thinking > >>> > > > > >>>> > > >> > about this in the context of new potential > >>> contributors > >>> > > > that > >>> > > > > >>>> are > >>> > > > > >>>> > > coming > >>> > > > > >>>> > > >> > along for GSOC that won't have the proper > hardware > >>> to > >>> > > build > >>> > > > > and > >>> > > > > >>>> > > deploy. > >>> > > > > >>>> > > >> > > >>> > > > > >>>> > > >> > While you all are continuing the discussion > around > >>> > > > > >>>> dockerization of > >>> > > > > >>>> > > >> > services, running from a single process, and > running > >>> > > > > >>>> microservices > >>> > > > > >>>> > > >> > selectively, I wanted to raise the request that > >>> Myrle > >>> > > and I > >>> > > > > had > >>> > > > > >>>> > > >> discussed > >>> > > > > >>>> > > >> > around requesting a VM from the Apache > >>> infrastructure > >>> > to > >>> > > > use > >>> > > > > to > >>> > > > > >>>> > > deploy a > >>> > > > > >>>> > > >> > public demo server for the community. This would > >>> > provide > >>> > > a > >>> > > > > >>>> tool for > >>> > > > > >>>> > > >> users > >>> > > > > >>>> > > >> > and partners to quickly evaluate and keep > progress > >>> of > >>> > > > > >>>> functionality > >>> > > > > >>>> > > but > >>> > > > > >>>> > > >> > more importantly allow web and mobile devs to > test > >>> > their > >>> > > > > >>>> changes > >>> > > > > >>>> > > without > >>> > > > > >>>> > > >> > having to build the entire project locally. > >>> > > > > >>>> > > >> > > >>> > > > > >>>> > > >> > Myrle can we request such infrastructure? > >>> > > > > >>>> > > >> > >>> > > > > >>>> > > >> I'll request if we have someone who will take on > the > >>> > > > > >>>> deployment. Do > >>> > > > > >>>> > we? > >>> > > > > >>>> > > >> > >>> > > > > >>>> > > >> Best Regards, > >>> > > > > >>>> > > >> Myrle > >>> > > > > >>>> > > >> > >>> > > > > >>>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>>> > > > -- > >>> > > > > >>>> > >>> > > > > >>> > > > *Ed Cable* > >>> > > > > >>>> > >>> > > > > >>> > >>> > > > > >>>> > > > President/CEO, Mifos Initiative > >>> > > > > >>>> > > > [email protected] | Skype: edcable | Mobile: > >>> > > +1.484.477.8649 <(484)%20477-8649> > >>> > > > > >>>> <(484)%20477-8649> > >>> > > > > >>>> > >>> > > > > >>> > > > <(484)%20477-8649> > >>> > > > > >>>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>>> > > > *Collectively Creating a World of 3 Billion Maries > | * > >>> > > > > >>>> http://mifos.org > >>> > > > > >>>> > > > <http://facebook.com/mifos> < > >>> > http://www.twitter.com/mifos> > >>> > > > > >>>> > >>> > > > > >>>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>>> > > > >>> > > > > >>>> > > > >>> > > > > >>>> > > -- > >>> > > > > >>>> > > *Ed Cable* > >>> > > > > >>>> > >>> > > > > >>> > >>> > > > > >>>> > > President/CEO, Mifos Initiative > >>> > > > > >>>> > > [email protected] | Skype: edcable | Mobile: > >>> > +1.484.477.8649 <(484)%20477-8649> > >>> > > > > >>>> <(484)%20477-8649> > >>> > > > > >>>> > > > >>> > > > > >>>> > >>> > > > > >>> > > *Collectively Creating a World of 3 Billion Maries | * > >>> > > > > >>>> http://mifos.org > >>> > > > > >>>> > > <http://facebook.com/mifos> < > >>> http://www.twitter.com/mifos> > >>> > > > > >>>> > > > >>> > > > > >>>> > > >>> > > > > >>>> > >>> > > > > >>>> > >>> > > > > >>>> > >>> > > > > >>>> -- > >>> > > > > >>>> *Ed Cable* > >>> > > > > >>>> > >>> > > > > >>> > >>> > > > > >>>> President/CEO, Mifos Initiative > >>> > > > > >>>> [email protected] | Skype: edcable | Mobile: > +1.484.477.8649 > >>> > <(484)%20477-8649> > >>> > > > > >>>> <(484)%20477-8649> > >>> > > > > >>>> > >>> > > > > >>>> *Collectively Creating a World of 3 Billion Maries | * > >>> > > > > http://mifos.org > >>> > > > > >>>> <http://facebook.com/mifos> < > http://www.twitter.com/mifos> > >>> > > > > >>>> > >>> > > > > >>> > >>> > > > > >>> > >>> > > > > >>> > >>> > > > > >>> -- > >>> > > > > >>> *Ed Cable* > >>> > > > > >>> President/CEO, Mifos Initiative > >>> > > > > >>> [email protected] | Skype: edcable | Mobile: > +1.484.477.8649 > >>> > <(484)%20477-8649> > >>> > > > > >>> <+1%20484-477-8649> > >>> > > > > >>> > >>> > > > > >>> *Collectively Creating a World of 3 Billion Maries | * > >>> > > > http://mifos.org > >>> > > > > >>> <http://facebook.com/mifos> <http://www.twitter.com/mifos > > > >>> > > > > >>> > >>> > > > > >>> > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > -- > >>> > > > > > *Ed Cable* > >>> > > > > > President/CEO, Mifos Initiative > >>> > > > > > [email protected] | Skype: edcable | Mobile: +1.484.477.8649 > >>> > <(484)%20477-8649> > >>> > > > > > <(484)%20477-8649> > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > *Collectively Creating a World of 3 Billion Maries | * > >>> > > http://mifos.org > >>> > > > > > <http://facebook.com/mifos> <http://www.twitter.com/mifos> > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > -- > >>> > > > > *Ed Cable* > >>> > > > > President/CEO, Mifos Initiative > >>> > > > > [email protected] | Skype: edcable | Mobile: +1.484.477.8649 > >>> > <(484)%20477-8649> > >>> > > > > <(484)%20477-8649> > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > *Collectively Creating a World of 3 Billion Maries | * > >>> > http://mifos.org > >>> > > > > <http://facebook.com/mifos> <http://www.twitter.com/mifos> > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > -- > >>> > *Ed Cable* > >>> > President/CEO, Mifos Initiative > >>> > [email protected] | Skype: edcable | Mobile: +1.484.477.8649 > >>> > <(484)%20477-8649> > >>> > > >>> > *Collectively Creating a World of 3 Billion Maries | * > http://mifos.org > >>> > <http://facebook.com/mifos> <http://www.twitter.com/mifos> > >>> > > >>> > >> > >> >
