Hello community, I second Michael and Saransh & Javier’s thoughts. There needs improvement in the way this community engages with each other over issue based development for a third party when there are small tickets involved.
Saransh & GSOC 2020 Kaze recently proposed a bounty platform that paves way for establishing such a sponsor-dev relationship over open tickets. This is also a mechanism to bring forward upstream behaviour. @Michael would you like to contribute. The purpose statement of this bounty platform is exactly what you just stated out of your expression over such threads. @Javier would you also like to contribute as you have kept this community OSS fundamentals strong for as long as I can remember. @Ed can monitor this bounty Service and advance it’s adoption while PMC Apache can register priority of tickets based on functional & tech standards. The bounty platform is demo ready in few weeks. It will match these small requests against Fineract developers. The payments should get processed across to the dev and there is a GIT enabled service. To accelerate this community‘s OSS fundamentals, we require to engage over such a medium for pin pointed developments. Thanks. On Wed, 2 Dec 2020 at 08.18, Saransh Sharma <[email protected]> wrote: > Commercial agreements are far more complex then we can think of , > > The space is vast and one party specifically wants to have all in one go , > undermining the developers and community. > > When we say like get some work one should get a draft of possible scenario > that’s kinda of generic in terms of what openly everyone wants...it can be > done by top level Apache guys but sadly they look pretty busy with other > things . I mean like proposing some ideas and drafting them in functional > piece and letting others know hey this is a feature we want and let > volunteers chip on the other hand project look but centralised as of now > only few members are making PR and the one doing in terms of functionality > are doing for a specific need that does not cater to all. > > Developers like us also hit a road block because there is no clear roadmap > on development lines so then creating an ambiguous term and task handed by > commercial entity could lead to more frustration > > I clearly see this in my experience if you even write some lines of code > for a feature there is no one who could or want to collaborate on those > line Apache member keep sending git messages like is this done can we just > get rid of this or close it . > > Seeing clients dropping out like that > > In reality we could follow a chart like a course where we can have some > solid developers working only to figure out what needs to be incorporated > in the product rather then client coming and saying we want this if they > want they should purely use freelancing and bounty program out there and > following the rigorous testing methodology. > > I mean off course the offer sounds great that I am ready to pay some > amount , according to industry standards the current developers rate is 45 > USD per hour or so it should be the base line if someone is willing to get > it done and with IT in place . > > Hence I propose we should have restructuring in terms of someone wanting > to introduce a new feature > > One could why this feature is needed and who is ready to work on talk to > developers on the community directly and see if they align with or without > commerce and once that is done involve Apache PMC and stuff and then make a > plan and execute > > Rather then sending e-mail oh I want to have this feature just send it our > way . > > Pardon my sentences written on phone > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > On 02-Dec-2020, at 12:05 PM, Michael Vorburger <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > I've left a comment on the related > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FINERACT-1274. > > I'm trying to understand why this request is not moving forward. It seems > like people are "hoping for" that some "volunteers" just "magically" do > this work "for them"? But the way it works in an open source project like > this one is basically just that someone who really wants this feature could > "sponsor" (pay for!) another party to do such a development. I was hoping > that such parties could be made to meet on this mailing list or through > JIRA issues and come to an agreement to get this kind of work done, but it > looks like that doesn't really work out like that... > > On Tue, Dec 1, 2020 at 7:59 PM Javier Borkenztain <[email protected]> wrote: > > Hi, I've created this issue: >> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FINERACT-1273 to kickstart the >> discussion >> >> [image: Logo] <https://www.fiter.io> >> *Javier Borkenztain* *| CEO* >> *e:* [email protected] >> *w:* fiter.io <http://www.fiter.io> >> *m:* +598 97980801 >> [image: twitter icon] <https://twitter.com/Fiter_io> [image: youtube >> icon] <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCfWztdFtHI3PwaSLAEcwTNQ> [image: >> linkedin icon] <https://www.linkedin.com/company/fiter-io> >> >> Sent via Superhuman <https://sprh.mn/[email protected]> >> >> >> On Tue, Dec 01, 2020 at 12:14:53, Ed Cable <[email protected]> wrote: >> > Javier, this would be a wonderful way for your team at Fiterv to >>> contribute to the upstream community. If you're able to create a respective >>> ticket on jira, and continue discussion on this thread before opening up a >>> pull request. Look forward to this potential contribution. >>> >>> Ed >>> >>> On Mon, Mar 23, 2020, 09:37 Javier Borkenztain <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >> Hi Zayyad, we've built this functionality for some of our clients. >>>> >>>> We can support you on this if you need. Let me know. >>>> >>>> Javier >>>> >>>> On Thu, Mar 19, 2020 at 8:04 AM <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>> Devs, >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I have a client request for email alerts to be sent to borrowers whose >>>>> repayments are falling due. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Mifos / Fineract as it is doesn’t have email field for clients and I >>>>> suspect this will pose a challenge to set up email alerts. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Is there anyone who has built something to send email alerts to >>>>> clients? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Kindly guide us on how we can achieve the same. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Best Regards; >>>>> >>>>> ********* >>>>> >>>>> *Zayyad A. 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